04-02-2021, 02:32 PM
(04-02-2021, 12:53 PM)omahen Wrote: 1. Who knows. He certainly is way better than anything we have at PF.
2. No, but he will sign max or very close to max contract
3. I think yes. We have arguably top 5 player in the league and a decent Robin. If we think that we are still very far away, than perhaps those guys are not top5 and very decent Robin.
I agree. The only reasonable way I see is the Brogdon way. Basically Atlanta not prepared to match max contract and accept a FRP as a compensation to back off. It might be much easier if Atlanta fails in playoffs. I think players valuation will depend a lot on how they perform in playoffs. In any case, I would hope Mavs would be sending some salary away in a SnT (to Atlanta or third team) so that we can retain at least one of JRich/THJ.
If this works that's the way I see it going. ATL is okay with moving on from Collins if they feel like they get compensated properly. It's hard to say how much the Mavs would have to give up or even if they can piece together something the Hawks would want. I am of the camp that Mavs will be aggressive and make a competitive offer that ATL *could* accept. In my view the challenge would be outbidding other suitors who might have a better package.
Looking back at the TDL we had this reporting:
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2021/3/21/...hn-collins
"League sources say Atlanta is receiving significant trade interest for John Collins from the Celtics, Kings, Mavericks, Pistons, and Timberwolves. The Hawks want one young player and a first-round draft pick to make a deal, or a package of similar value such as multiple first-round picks."
The Celtics probably would have had to make a TDL trade to make the math work. I am not sure if they could do some kind of multi-team trade with Kemba + picks outgoing and Collins incoming on a max deal. It would be just like the Celtics to blow up our dreams.
Minnesota did not want to trade Malik Beasley and they don't have cap space this summer. Pistons and Kings could create cap space. The challenge now for teams is that they have to do salary matching or some combination of matching + cap space clearing while also talking Collins into signing there.
Mavs might at least be the best team from a talent standpoint in the running.