2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived

[omahen]

I'm not sure the Hayward deal is a great example of what you are talking about in some of your more complex examples (and don't take this as me arguing with you, I'm a fan of the direction you are headed).  Charlotte had the agreement with Hayward.  He was unrestricted and they didn't need Boston to do anything.  Charlotte had space.  So, there are a lot of elements that are different than the situation with RFA Collins and getting THJ (and probably a third team) to wait for you. 

I am not sure we understand each other. I am speaking about exactly the same thing as Boston and Charlotte did. Lets say JRich reaches agreement with Miami. He is unrestricted and can sign with them. Instead of signing him in cap space we ask them to SnT him and include themselves in our Atlanta deal. I am not convincing JRich to go somewhere he doesn't want to or even to wait without the offer, I am also not asking for salary back. I am just asking Miami for a little favour. This way JRich counts as our outgoing salary. But it goes in Miami cap space, no salary coming back. Finally, we are not getting Collins in our cap space, we are trading Powell (to New York) and JRich (to Miami) as our outgoing salary. Of course many other scenarios this can go. We are doing a SnT, we don't need cap space for that and it can be done on day one. No waiting required. There are certain agents involved I would be counting on. Schwartz for Collins and Duffy for Richardson, if I remember correctly. 

For this to happen: 
1) Collins has to want to go to Dallas. 
2) Atlanta has to be satisfied with a modest compensation instead of paying max to Collins. 
3) The team Richardson is going to as a FA has to play along and rather SnT him (from his perspective is a totally same thing)
4) we have to dump Powell without salary coming back and his dumping is included in this four team deal

THJ we can sign on the first day, as we are operating over the cap. He is totally independent of the Collins discussions.