2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived

[MAVS-SLO]

Fair to disagree with some of the proposed trades but at least acknowledge that most of them aren´t about the things that you point out. Love was discussed as an option to add picks, prospects or additional rotation players. The oncourt value he might have is not the main piece of the trade. Whatever the Mavs could get in addition because they absorbed his contract is.

Same for any KP trade. We don´t know how other teams/GMs think of him and his contract but trading him to get assets that could be used in a trade or to create more capspace is a legit option.




Not really sure what to make of this. Starting with the positions of certain players. KP not being listed as the starting center. Luka could potentially play any position from 1-4 on defense. Richardson is more of a SG than both THJ and Green. In most matchups he defends the opposing PG.
Not really sure why the Mavs should be worried about DFS or Brunsons contract. With Luka´s max extension they won´t have any capspace anyway. More about the luxury tax line but if Cuban isn´t willing to pay for a potential contender the Mavs are screwed anyway. With bird rights the Mavs can match any contract offer for DFS or Brunson. If they want to stay in Dallas money shouldn´t be the problem.




You already mentioned the lack of assets. Not sure how the Mavs add Turner without any. Powell and Iwundu have negative value. Johnson is expiring. Mavs have three more weeks to turn him into something more useful. Don´t expect a miracle. If the Mavs trade Johnson for a longer contract they won´t have capspace in the summer but that´s probably the best way to get anything useful in return.
Other posters are mentioning trades for players like KLove for a reason. That´s the kind of trade a team should do if it wants to add future assets.

•  Iwundu only played in 5/14 games in february and march. 23 minutes in total. Mavs desperately needed wins and played a 7-8 man rotation. No rookies, no deep bench guys. The rookies played in the g-league.
  
• Of course. But it is not easy. Guys like Maxi or DFS aren´t easy to find. Otherwise all teams would have at least 3-4 undrafted rotation players.
  
• Mavs shouldn´t overpay but they cannot influence the market price.
  
• Only an option if the Mavs actually have capspace (if you want to keep THJ and trade Johnson that´s not going to happen)
  
• Agree. But it can also backfire. Best example. Powells contract.
  
• Again. How? Turners trade value is probably at an all time high. If you aren´t willing to trade KP (or at least Brunson and all remaining picks) that´s not going to happen. We are discussing names like Hield, Fournier, Love or Bagley because they might be available (according to the latest trade rumors).
  

Most of trade ideas are click bait. They found 4-5 versions of trade for every single player in NBA.

I'm not against trading for a player. I'm against trading for a players who will destroy our cap space for 3-4 years in the future. And that's the thing with Love, Horford... I't would be different story if they would be on expiring contract.

And i'm also against giving assest's for a few months rental players. It's ok if they're on expiring contracts but i wouldn't give assests for a players who would just walk to other team few months later (Lowry, Oladipo).

Powell contract is disaster, we can all agree, but with trading for players mentioned (Love, Horford), we get just another version of Powell with 3 time bigger contract. And that completly destroy our cap space.

Also, even if most of stars extended they're contracts there will be plenty of interesting players in free agency. In 10 - 20 mil. range.

I listed KP on a 4 beacuse of his unique style of play. He is a little bit stock between 4 - 5 and we need to find a player to pair with him. And i listed him on 4 beacuse of teams with stronger centers destroying us 2 year a row. Similar thing is with J-Rich.

Yes we are in lack of assests and i don't expect miracles. I would be glad if we could somehow turn Powell, Johnson and Iwundu in something useful, but i thing some of the names could become more problematic than currently trio.

I would prefer if this trio could be used in a trades where we also get something useful with normal contract. That's the probably biggest difference i forgot to wrote. Also, i wouldn't be against trading for some reclamation projects.

Yes, Turner value is high but i think that's the reason we should wait until the summer and free agency before trading for a players with longer contracts. If some guards or forwards (like Lonzo) become available that easily could add J-Rich (if he opts in) to become trade option to offer to Pacers.