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2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived
(02-25-2021, 02:11 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Finally, like I said in the KP thread, the dude has had zero conditioning. He's coming off of a surgery. We gotta cut him some slack. I understand that KP's health has and it seems always will be the sticking point but even in his rough patch he's been producing quite well at least on 1 side of the court. And I can understand the concern about building around a guy with health problems and why I'm not married to the idea of KP being an Mav for life. But to trade him right now? For pennies on the dollar? Ludicrous. It's just too early. It'd be like leaving in the middle of a date because she's been in the bathroom a bit too long. Sure could've ditched. She could also be doing cocaine as far as we know. Lets give it a bit before we give up.

Maybe it's the tail wagging the dog or purely coincidental, but something doesn't feel right with him missing games with lower back tightness after a week long layover.  Did he come back too soon from his most recent knee surgery?  Why would the Mavs allow that in the first place?  His role and blackhole usage in the offense has been strange and some of the off hand comments about how he's being used have also felt off.  And now we get all these reports.  You can write that off as Donnie doing his due diligence and normal operations for any GM, but why is this being reported then and not every other fact finding mission from other GMs leaguewide?

(02-25-2021, 02:18 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: And also you're right. KP could get injured yet again next game and never look the same. I hope that never happens but I'm not going to plan around a hypothetical that we cannot predict accurately at all. Especially if that means I have to trade away KP based on that hypothetical. 

Him being oft injured and someone you can't count on isn't a hypothetical at this point.  That wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't on a max contract, but here we are.  I'm not in the camp that thinks he's fallen off a cliff but I'm also not a fan of how he's being used or how he's playing right now.  That might be a conversation for a different time but between injury, salary and fit, I'm off the hype train.

(02-25-2021, 02:18 AM)SleepingHero Wrote:  Put it this way, if you told me in January of 2019 that the Mavs would be able to turn DSJ+Wes+DAJ into Kristaps+THJ, I'd have told you that you're smoking the good stuff and that's nowhere near enough value.

#9 Pick (DSJ who still looked like a starting caliber NBA Player) + 2 FRPs + salary matching + the Mavs had to take on 3YRs of THJ's contract which was considered one of the worst contracts in the league.  New York would have had to given up at least a FRP to get off of THJ's contract based on his time there.  Let's not pretend that KP was inexpensive to acquire and he was traded before the latest craze of gong all out to land another star.  Jrue Holiday went for 3 FRPs, Pick Swaps and a quality player in Bledsoe.  Our FRPs are probably more attractive than the Bucks, but don't kid yourself, if Beal goes, he's going to cost a ton. Hell, Robert Covington went for 2x FRPs.
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2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived - by Kammrath - 11-30-2020, 11:21 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25 TDL | WAS among teams monitoring KP situation - by cow - 02-25-2021, 02:29 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by TXBamanut - 03-24-2021, 03:28 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by vfromlmf - 03-24-2021, 03:38 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 05:46 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by ItsGoTime - 03-24-2021, 04:31 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by KillerLeft - 03-24-2021, 04:37 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 05:05 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 05:47 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:00 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:04 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 06:01 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:16 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Tyler - 03-24-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Jason Terry - 03-24-2021, 08:36 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:12 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 09:26 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Jommybone - 03-24-2021, 09:35 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Hypermav - 03-24-2021, 09:40 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-25-2021, 08:17 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 09:37 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by mvossman - 03-24-2021, 09:54 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 09:50 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:56 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by cjeter24 - 03-24-2021, 10:05 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-24-2021, 10:21 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by cow - 03-24-2021, 11:18 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-24-2021, 10:47 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Branduil - 03-24-2021, 11:14 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-25-2021, 08:12 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-25-2021, 08:16 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by vfromlmf - 03-25-2021, 08:49 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-25-2021, 09:28 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-25-2021, 09:49 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:39 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 03:17 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by michaeltex - 03-25-2021, 04:14 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-25-2021, 04:51 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by JamesConway - 03-25-2021, 03:25 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mapka - 03-25-2021, 03:35 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-25-2021, 03:48 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mapka - 03-25-2021, 03:58 PM
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