2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived

[omahen]

I think the key right now (ASSUMING there is some smoke around trading KP at some point) is figuring out the best possible timing.

1.  It could be that a trade right now is a total panic "sell low" scenario.
2.  It could be they fear things get worse and sell-later means selling even lower.

If they trade to get someone like Drummond in the lineup, it MIGHT be #1 above and they are kicking the can down the road on KP.  It will be easier to trade him this summer (especially if he shows better health between now and then).  In fact, the KP whispers might be gauging what the summer market might be like.

I think the trade market for KP right now would be disappointing.  You won't get LaVine out of Chicago.  I can't see the Bulls wanting to pair KP and Markkanen, so you probably won't get WCJ either.  You might get Markkanen with Porter for filler and maybe a top X protected pick this summer?   The article mentions Charlotte.  Yuck.  The prize there would be Rozier? along with expiring Zeller?  What else?  Maybe Toronto based around Lowry?  Atlanta is throwing money around aggressively.  Maybe Collins and Bogdonovic and Snell for KP and some additional salary.

I don't understand why you stated only those two options. Assuming the news is correct, it is very likely just what the news said - that Mavs are not so quietly anymore gauging his market. We are only assuming they weren't doing this even before. In any case, I think it is their job to gauge the market and they do it all the time. It doesn't mean they will really make a move.

KP of course gives a ton of options. I don't think his value is that low. It is not so long ago he was posting up 30 ppg while playing good defense. ASSUMING, his value is not that low, I would not look for lateral move. KP for Collins is lateral move imho, even if you add Bogi. Even KP for LaVine is a lateral move. Just trading one flawed borderline star for another. It doesn't really make Mavs better. As KP, Collins is also sort of a unicorn. Undersized center who is elite in PnR and can also hit a three with a decent percentage, but is a liability on defense as he is neither a good rim protector or good perimeter defender. I am really having trouble to determine what kind of player would look best as Collins partner in the frontcourt. 

If I am trading KP, I would be looking for a three team trade that would really improve Mavs. I think our guard/wing rotation is good, actually. There also aren't enough minutes to add a piece without taking someone away. That's why only an elite wing would convince me to break Brunson/JRich/THJ/DFS rotation. What I would be looking to improve would be C and PF. Mavs are able to eat some bad salary, Mavs are able to add some picks and young players. I actually think KP would be great for Atlanta, but as I said, Collins is not enough for me, so I am looking at three team trades. I think these are possible candidates if center is a target: Chicago, Cleveland, Sacramento. For example:

Dal: Collins, WCJ (I am not really sure about the fit), Snell
Atl: KP
Chi: Reddish or Huerter (or draft compensation), Green (or draft assets), Rondo

Dal: Collins, Drummond (yikes, I really don't like him, but what the hell)
Atl: KP
Cle: Snell, Rondo, draft compensation from Atlanta

Dal: Collins, Holmes, Snell, Rondo (huh, we would need to cut/trade 3 more guys)
Atl: KP
Sacramento: Bobi, Iwundu (or Burke), draft compensation from Atlanta

Or lets go for a guard version:

Dal: Collins, Lowry, Rondo (didn't check with trade machine but I would think salaries work)
Atl: KP
Tor: Snell, Johnson (or THJ?), draft compensation from Atl and Dal

Many more possibilities for a bunch of different three team options or even expanded to more. Any case, I think KP trade should be complicated to make us better