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2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived
(02-13-2021, 02:34 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: JT, I thought your entire post was really good.  We are better than our current standing and numbers indicate (Covid and injuries devastating the roster does matter).  I think Omahen's quote is a false dichotomy.  Clearly there are more nuanced options, though I would agree we are in a bit of a rock and hard spot dilemma as it relates to the options you provide and anything in-between.  Here are some things (and challenges) I think lie between doing nothing and starting from scratch:

ST Band-aid:  JT has posted some good backup PF options.  These would give us a good ninth man to add to the C/PG/Wing that we currently have in spots 6, 7 and 8.  I think of this as the Thaddeus Young option and personally think we need to do this at the very least.  We rely WAY too heavily on Maxi and DFS and an injury to either in the playoffs would be devastating.  James Johnson hasn't proven to be the answer.  Do we "contend" with this addition?  I view us as eventually returning to better than where we peaked last season, so small incremental improvements are valuable.

More than a ST Band-aid at the TDL:  We can all dream about a size-able upgrade at some position (I'll call this the John Collins option...Schwartz...to put a face with a theory).  Unfortunately, it is hard to trade for value when you have no value to give.  We have nothing to offer other than expiring deals.  None of the players we could offer are particularly young nor do they have high ceilings (does anyone seriously think we are trading KP?).  Plus, with 20 teams making the playoffs/play-in now and 26 or so thinking they have a chance (and the lottery odds less beneficial to tanking), there aren't a lot of sellers out there.   I think we are much more likely to see an expiring veteran on the downside of his career than someone on the level of Collins...so back to the ST Band-aid.

Summer:  As I've said for months, we have to give up a ton just to get in the conversation for high level FA's.  If you are going to give up all those guys in the summer for a shot, then you are better off doing it before the TDL and controlling said RFA (or at least having full Bird rights if he's a UFA).  Add the fact that there isn't an obvious home run UFA available and summer home runs don't seem likely.  I'm not saying we won't do anything.  I'm saying it is unlikely to be anywhere near a max level guy in the summer.

I will remind all of a complicating factor that might make Brunson more available than I'd prefer.  As most know, he's UFA in 22 and Dallas has no way of keeping him if he wants to go.  Yes, we can extend Brunson next season, but only up to 120% of the average salary (call it $12mm).  So, if Brunson is satisfied at that level or less, great.  If he sees himsellf as FVV if only given FVV's opportunity, then uh oh.  

I've posted something Eric Pincus wrote about Zach LaVine who is in a similar situation but at bigger dollars (basically renegotiate the 2021 contract and then extend him).  It would take additional research to see if that would work with Brunson.  But even if it does, that will require using some 2021 cap room...not ideal if we are trying to use cap room to add players.  Does Dallas want to deal with all that?  Or, do they let it become someone else's problem by moving Brunson?  I like Brunson and love how he looks with and without Luka this season.  But, when you add in all the financial gymnastics it becomes more of an open question than just my preference to keep him.
Thanks for that info on Brunson. Didn’t know all that. I guess that could complicate things. He doesn’t seem like the big ego type that cares if he’s starting so long if he gets his minutes(25). Hopefully we can reach a deal with him. $12 million is fair for a backup PG

It seems like this turns into a “which bird rights are best to have” game. IMO, that would be more than ST band-aid since it would be done with the idea of re-signing that player. That’s how i could see a guy like Fournier being on the table even though he doesn’t solve our biggest issue. He would be a culture fit(euro) and some additional scoring/3P from the wing. 

Haven’t totally ruled out Johnson, but the underwhelming rebounding has been a disappointment. Like you said though, this will be an unusual year with so many teams in the “playoffs” now. Could lead to high prices so we should expect something small
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2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived - by Kammrath - 11-30-2020, 11:21 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Trade/FA Ideas (Mar 25 TDL) + Salary Chart - by Jason Terry - 02-13-2021, 06:51 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by TXBamanut - 03-24-2021, 03:28 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by vfromlmf - 03-24-2021, 03:38 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 05:46 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by ItsGoTime - 03-24-2021, 04:31 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by KillerLeft - 03-24-2021, 04:37 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 05:05 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 05:47 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:00 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:04 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 06:01 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 06:16 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Tyler - 03-24-2021, 08:18 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Jason Terry - 03-24-2021, 08:36 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:12 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-24-2021, 09:26 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Jommybone - 03-24-2021, 09:35 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Hypermav - 03-24-2021, 09:40 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-25-2021, 08:17 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 09:37 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by mvossman - 03-24-2021, 09:54 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-24-2021, 09:50 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-24-2021, 09:56 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by cjeter24 - 03-24-2021, 10:05 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-24-2021, 10:21 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by cow - 03-24-2021, 11:18 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-24-2021, 10:47 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Branduil - 03-24-2021, 11:14 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by omahen - 03-25-2021, 08:12 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by StepBackJay - 03-25-2021, 08:16 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by vfromlmf - 03-25-2021, 08:49 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-25-2021, 09:28 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mavs2021 - 03-25-2021, 09:49 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:39 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 02:43 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Kammrath - 03-25-2021, 03:17 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by michaeltex - 03-25-2021, 04:14 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-25-2021, 04:51 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by JamesConway - 03-25-2021, 03:25 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mapka - 03-25-2021, 03:35 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-25-2021, 03:48 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by Mapka - 03-25-2021, 03:58 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: Mar 25, 2pm TDL - by F Gump - 03-25-2021, 04:08 PM

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