02-12-2021, 02:53 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-12-2021, 03:34 PM by KillerLeft.)
(02-12-2021, 02:31 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Good luck with that. Neither Atlanta nor Chicago need either of them and any proposal that puts them at the center of a deal that brings back an upgraded starter here isn't a serious proposal.
Pretty clearly Collins is an upgrade over Maxi. To me, that is the point of the trade. The nice thing about both Atlanta and Chicago is they are trying to take the leap into relevancy. So, they probably aren't a candidate for selling off good players for draft picks. So, then you get into what this looks like in terms of on-court contributions right now. Maxi has to be included in a deal for the other team's PF. I think DFS can contribute nicely to either team. Snell is a band aid to get us to the off season (or give Green more time to grow). I agree we would be a little shy at backup PF, but Collin's O is diverse enough to play with any of KP, Powell and WCS.
Yeah, I don't disagree, and so I'm not sure there IS a trade fit with Atlanta I'd like.
I totally agree that Collins is a MASSIVE upgrade over Kleber, but the result of a deal involving DFS and Kleber leaves you in need of way more tinkering. I suppose it's possible that Collins is worth that. I'm not sure.
I'm 100% not trying to make Richardson/THJ combo work in the starting/closing lineups anymore, if I can help it. I would be TRYING to push one of them in a package, rather than DFS, if it was up to me. My preference would be Richardson going and THJ staying. You can't tell me that either of them is less valuable than DFS, other than the contract, maybe.
(02-12-2021, 02:48 PM)omahen Wrote: I am not so sure about Chicago. They brought a serius coach this season, but result is basically same as last one. Perhaps a minor tweak or two could make them much better, but I am not so sure. They brought two very solid vets last season in Young and Sato which did absolutely nothing to them in terms of more wins. They lack a good wing. Rookie Williams is more of a PF, at least if he doesn't improve his shot. But they have Markkanen at PF. They also need a good PG. White is not it, imho, he is a SG. LaVine might score a lot but the team is not really profitting from that in terms of more wins. Perhaps a really good floor general would sort their problems. I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if their management pull some serious rebuilding moves, once they make their plan. I think owner would allow them a rebuild too, if that is what they think its best.
Yeah, this is exactly what I was trying to say yesterday. It's tough to tell who's available there and who's not. You could tell me they're going in any one of 3-4 directions and I'd believe you. That probably means that your "I think they're ALL available" was right on target, but my point is that if THEY know who they want to move, it's not clear to me.