12-07-2020, 01:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-07-2020, 01:32 AM by dirkfansince1998.)
@"KillerLeft"
I think our discussion makes more sense in the free agency/roster moves thread.
Who else would you target next year besides Giannis or some fantasy trade that isn´t even discussed right now?
It´s basically Gobert, guys with a player option (Kawhi, PG) that are unlikely to leave, injury-prone former allstars like Oladipo or RFAs.
FA: Oladipo, Fournier, Aldridge, DeRozan, Gobert, Conley
PO: CP3, Leonard, George, Dinwindie, Powell (TOR)
RFA: Collins (ATL), Collins (POR), Allen, Markkanen, Kuzma, Robinson, Ball, Fultz, Isaac, White, OG Anunoby
I think you mentioned the Mavs need for a 3rd star and that you are not convinced that KP can be the 2nd option. If that´s the case we can only hope for another KP-like miracle trade. Only problem is that this time the Mavs don´t even have the picks to pay for a high quality player.
Remember that RoCo was traded for 2 1sts. The Magic rejected the same offer for Gordon. A difference maker / 3rd star like Jrue Holiday was traded for Bledsoe, Hill, 2 unprotected 1sts and 2 future pick swaps.
Let´s say the Mavs want to do something similar. What can they offer? They don´t have the picks. They have some solid role player on good contracts (Maxi, DFS) and expiring contracts to match salaries. Maybe one of the rookies has a good season and adds value to a potential trade package. That still wouldn´t be enough to match the Bucks offer for Jrue. Not to mention that the Mavs would basically lose their entire depth.
Meaning that we can also rule out any trade for even bigger fishes like Bradley Beal.
I guess the Mavs could try their luck and go for one of the injury-prone or overpaid guys but that´s a very risky move and you already mentioned your dislike for players like Tobias Harris.
Looking at the last few pages you basically dismissed any option that is not Giannis but you also pointed out that it isn´t Giannis or bust. Obviously a lot can happen in the next few month. Injuries, teams deciding to tank or rebuild, players declining/improving. But that´s not something the Mavs can control and I would prefer a scenario where the Mavs hold all the cards instead of hoping for some miracle.
Looking at the available free agents I don´t think any of them outside of Giannis is better than the combination of THJ + Richardson + x (Johnson + assets trade). That´s basically the best "no Giannis" scenario.
The worst case is Giannis signing somewhere else. Losing THJ, JRich. Not using any expiring contract in a trade. Ending up with one year veteran rentals to give Luka a roster that can at least make the playoffs.
I think our discussion makes more sense in the free agency/roster moves thread.
Who else would you target next year besides Giannis or some fantasy trade that isn´t even discussed right now?
It´s basically Gobert, guys with a player option (Kawhi, PG) that are unlikely to leave, injury-prone former allstars like Oladipo or RFAs.
FA: Oladipo, Fournier, Aldridge, DeRozan, Gobert, Conley
PO: CP3, Leonard, George, Dinwindie, Powell (TOR)
RFA: Collins (ATL), Collins (POR), Allen, Markkanen, Kuzma, Robinson, Ball, Fultz, Isaac, White, OG Anunoby
I think you mentioned the Mavs need for a 3rd star and that you are not convinced that KP can be the 2nd option. If that´s the case we can only hope for another KP-like miracle trade. Only problem is that this time the Mavs don´t even have the picks to pay for a high quality player.
Remember that RoCo was traded for 2 1sts. The Magic rejected the same offer for Gordon. A difference maker / 3rd star like Jrue Holiday was traded for Bledsoe, Hill, 2 unprotected 1sts and 2 future pick swaps.
Let´s say the Mavs want to do something similar. What can they offer? They don´t have the picks. They have some solid role player on good contracts (Maxi, DFS) and expiring contracts to match salaries. Maybe one of the rookies has a good season and adds value to a potential trade package. That still wouldn´t be enough to match the Bucks offer for Jrue. Not to mention that the Mavs would basically lose their entire depth.
Meaning that we can also rule out any trade for even bigger fishes like Bradley Beal.
I guess the Mavs could try their luck and go for one of the injury-prone or overpaid guys but that´s a very risky move and you already mentioned your dislike for players like Tobias Harris.
Looking at the last few pages you basically dismissed any option that is not Giannis but you also pointed out that it isn´t Giannis or bust. Obviously a lot can happen in the next few month. Injuries, teams deciding to tank or rebuild, players declining/improving. But that´s not something the Mavs can control and I would prefer a scenario where the Mavs hold all the cards instead of hoping for some miracle.
Looking at the available free agents I don´t think any of them outside of Giannis is better than the combination of THJ + Richardson + x (Johnson + assets trade). That´s basically the best "no Giannis" scenario.
The worst case is Giannis signing somewhere else. Losing THJ, JRich. Not using any expiring contract in a trade. Ending up with one year veteran rentals to give Luka a roster that can at least make the playoffs.