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2020-2021 ROSTER TALK: Archived
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(12-03-2020, 04:48 PM)Mavsfan12 Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsESmdKDt5Q&ab_channel=LilShawn424

THANK YOU!

The above video shows a secondary playmaker in action, attacking a close out by flooring the ball and finding an open shooter. Well done. 

Here's my problem. I watched maybe 97% of Mavs games last year, and I can literally only remember 4-5 of these. Hopefully, we'll see more plays like this, and maybe even see him utilized in other ways that don't require quite so much reckless abandon. 

It is objectively true that KP wasn't directly involved in the offense very often last year, especially prior to Powell's injury. I have a subjective opinion about that, which is that I find it concerning. Could he be involved more in the future? Sure, but I WANT TO SEE IT.

Anyway, even if you all don't agree with me, I hope this helps you understand why I've been such a believer in what this "cap space 2021" plan is all about. If you imagine for a second that I'm right about this, then it's easy to see how concerned I'd be at the prospect of going over the cap without having that 3rd (or 2nd) guy in place. 

I would point directly at the Mavs' approach as proof that they agree with me. But, we'll see.

(12-03-2020, 04:48 PM)Mavsfan12 Wrote: KL, you are a prolific poster.  I have a million things I want to say on this subject and I can't keep up.  haha.  I think that Porzingis does a lot of the things you are asking for (outside of the "get down on the post and throw him the ball" stuff that RC specifically frowns on).  Part of his limitation is that he IS a big.  Outside of Jokic, there aren't really big man creators - and I think KP has a lot of quickness/driving advantages over him.  There are hybrids, like Simmons/Lebron and even I would throw Doncic in that group.  But sometimes, I think you are pointing out the way he is used, and ignoring his positives.  On the above list of elite bigs, (if you rule out health), the only player I would want over Porzingis is Embiid and possibly Jokic.  I think KP/Towns are a wash (kp better on d, Towns better on O).  That is the list.  Well, and AD.  THAT is the list.  All the other players I would trade KP for (again, excluding health) are wings or guards.  

It has been said, but when KP/Luka are not on the floor together, or when Luka missed a stretch of games in Jan, KP thrived as a primary "star" on this team.  He was dropping 30pt double doubles with regularity.  That said, he is not asked to be a distributor on this team - and mainly because of the fact that he isn't used in the same way as Dirk where the point of his action was to post (usually high or elbow) and either take advantage of a mismatch or draw a double and kick.  That action is seldom used in the current Mavs playbook.  But KP puts the ball on the floor and does kick out passes.  Attacking cloesouts is a staple of his game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsESmdKDt5Q&ab_channel=LilShawn424

Where I agree with you is that the Mavs have a unique window in the next year to actually add a player that could make KP #3 on this team...  If the Mavs are able to do that, they are a dynasty.

I skimmed this too fast at first and focused on the video right away. 

You seem to feel like you saw Porzingis do more of what I'm hoping to see than I saw...I hope you're right. I can tell you're eye to eye with me on all of this at least, even if you don't agree, so at least I know I didn't totally butcher the articulation of everything. I was starting to feel like I had taken some crazy pills!
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