03-23-2021, 07:10 AM
(03-23-2021, 04:32 AM)meistermatze Wrote: Also, for the Maxi critics: The only problem with him is that he plays alongside DFS. They are both nice glue guys but pretty much non-factors on offense. We can't get away with two guys like that. Since Maxi plays his role perfectly, has the miles better 3-point-percentage, is AT LEAST equally good on defense (I would argue he is actually better as a one-on-one defender) and has even started to hit some midrange shots - DFS is the goner. Maxi would absolutely thrive being the number 5 on offense, if that makes sense.
Who are these Maxi critics? Not picking on you, but the Straw Man doesn't improve the argument, yet so many choose to use it as a device. Everyone agrees with your view on Maxi. It is what would/might make him attractive to Atlanta too. But, players of Collins quality won't come here for our garbage. So, something valuable has to be part of the outgoing.
(03-22-2021, 11:15 PM)mvossman Wrote: There is no question Collins would improve the offense, although at the expense of marginalizing KP by operating in his space and taking some of his touches (in a very similar manner that Powell did). If our goal is to get back to the best offense in the league with an average defense then trading Maxi + assets for Collins might make sense. I'm just skeptical that is good enough to make us a contender. History kind of suggests that you need to have a top 10 defense to win a championship. Maybe we can break that trend, but I don't see it. There is a reason we start Maxi and DFS and traded for Richardson (and drafted Green and Bey). We need to improve defensively in order to become legit contenders, and that kind of trade goes in the wrong direction.
Can't we say that any third star would marginalize KP's touches? If Beal wanted to come here, do we say no because KP won't "get his"? If that is the standard, then I fear we will never land another 20-ish PPG scorer. Now, I absolutely agree that KP won't like it and I do have concerns about fit. What is interesting is KP is having his most efficient shooting year ever. His .586 TS% is .035 better than his previous best (last year) and way better than his pedestrian average in NY of .535. This is the first time in his career that his is better than league average at adding points through field goals attempted and adding points through True Shot Attempts made. And yet he seems unhappy (and is killing us defensively to the point we are not top 10, but 24th) I know, extenuating circumstances. But, if extenuating circumstances have crushed his defensive effectiveness until recently, how come he is career best in offensive efficiency?
Collins fell out of bed hitting over .600 in TS% (Career .633). He's been a plus to team scoring every year of his career. He is flat out a much better offensive player than KP and should get some of someone's touches. Atlanta is crazy to not give him more than 13 shots a game and he still gets them 18 a game (a Dirk-ish 138.6 points per shot attempt). I know your point wasn't about offense (and your defensive point is valid and I like the Capela idea). But my point is we will always be Luka and his band of merry 4th/5th/6th men if KP's feelings are the standard for adding talent.