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The Rotation (2020-2021)
#1
I wanted to get this on paper so we can take a look at it and see what we see. Does our free agency / trade need or needs jump out at you?

The numbers reflect rotation rank

1 Luka / 6 Brunson
3 JRich / 9 Terry
4 THJ  / 10 Green
5 DFS   / 7 Maxi
2 KP    / 8 DP
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(11-20-2020, 12:06 PM)fifteenth Wrote: I wanted to get this on paper so we can take a look at it and see what we see. Does our free agency / trade need or needs jump out at you?

The numbers reflect rotation rank

1 Luka / 6 Brunson
3 JRich / 9 Terry
4 THJ  / 10 Green
5 DFS   / 7 Maxi
2 KP    / 8 DP

That DFS would be the 2nd best play-maker in the S5. It´s obvious they need another guy that can put it on the floor and create for others. They have adressed a lot of issues, but this remains the big one, which makes Bogdanovic such an interesting target.
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(11-20-2020, 12:10 PM)Mavs2019 Wrote: That DFS would be the 2nd best play-maker in the S5. It´s obvious they need another guy that can put it on the floor and create for others. They have adressed a lot of issues, but this remains the big one, which makes Bogdanovic such an interesting target.


No way. That's JRich
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#4
We have so much money locked into bigs but that's still the area where I'm most concerned 
When will KP get back into the groove? How bad will Powell suck with a 2 inch vertical? 
Are we planning to ride Boban hard with KP out? He's too old to play too much
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#5
KP won´t be available early in the season and Powells recovery is still a huge question mark. Without WCS the Mavs might start the season with a center rotation of Maxi/Boban. Mavs need at least one more big or at least a big forward.

Trade for: Tucker
MLE: Millsap, Crowder, Favors
Sign&Trade: Woods, Gallinari (not a fan but he can play 30+ minutes as the starting PF)
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#6
(11-20-2020, 12:06 PM)fifteenth Wrote: I wanted to get this on paper so we can take a look at it and see what we see. Does our free agency / trade need or needs jump out at you?


Good work. What we need imho:
1. Star secondary facilitator (probably more 2021 wish)
2. back up PG vet (I really like Hill, or perhaps just someone on vet min to cover Brunson)
3. another PF/C body. Could be vet min.
4. Big 3-D wing (Crowder, Millsap, T.Young and similar, to get the idea)
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#7
Yeah JRich averaged 4 assists per on a team that he led in scoring (and which nearly made the playoffs)
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#8
Two things stand out to me as needs

1. Big wing
2. A high enough quality player to push most of the rotation hierarchy down a notch
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#9
1 Luka / 7 Brunson
5 JRich / 9 Terry
3 THJ  / 10 Green
4 DFS   / 6 Maxi
2 KP    / 8 DP
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#10
I mean the starting lineup listed up top and the rotation behind seems spot on. Maybe Green works his way in to the top 8/9 if he develops, or his defense is just that good.

Definitely need a secondary ball handler/creator to help Luka late. Definitely need a Big body at some point. 4 or 5. KP and DP are question marks for a month or 2.
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#11
(11-20-2020, 03:45 PM)Drew Wrote: I mean the starting lineup listed up top and the rotation behind seems spot on.  Maybe Green works his way in to the top 8/9 if he develops, or his defense is just that good.

Definitely need a secondary ball handler/creator to help Luka late.  Definitely need a Big body at some point. 4 or 5.  KP and DP are question marks for a month or 2.

I think if the Mavs didn't have FA (which of course they do) then Rick still would have a pretty good rotation. The 4 spot would be the one that would fluctuate potentially game to game. I think Maxi or Powell could be plugged in over DFS depending on the matchup.

In FA I do expect them to get some kind of big wing that could push DFS to the bench. The Bog idea would move THJ to the bench and/or make him expendable. I think Bog as your other wing is an upgrade over THJ in a big way bc of his playmaking. That being said you could argue that's a luxury but I think this might be the type of move that makes the Mavs a real contender.

If Bog doesn't happen then THJ is your wing and you might be able to upgrade that DFS spot. Millsap, Gallo & Tucker are good choices. I like Ibaka and some other guys but you could argue an Ibaka or Wood are more like 5's in Rick's system. I don't think the Mavs need another 5 unless its someone cheap. I believe Boban earned more minutes and Powell is back. If you include a health KP as your main 5 then you already got 3 deep with centers. The one caveat is a guy like Baynes who could be had on a value contract, I think you might consider someone like that as a great option for when KP is on the shelf.

So ya a big wing and dumping Wright are the priorities. I am hoping Burke can be back on a cheap contract. He played great in the bubble and can play PG/SG.
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#12
(11-20-2020, 12:06 PM)fifteenth Wrote: I wanted to get this on paper so we can take a look at it and see what we see. Does our free agency / trade need or needs jump out at you?

The numbers reflect rotation rank

This is a nice plan. I’m going to make these changes to reflect the possible line up to start the season.

1 Luka / 6 Brunson / Terry
2 JRich / 7 Burke(.5 MLE?) 
5 THJ  / 9 Wright / Green
3 DFS   / 10 Jackson / Bey
4 Maxi   / 8 Boban / (.5 MLE?)

Things move around a bit w DP available as you imagined. And KP even more so. But even without the question on those guys I think one more big w MLE makes sense. We have to get tougher and more physical.
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#13
(11-20-2020, 12:15 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Two things stand out to me as needs

1. Big wing
2. A high enough quality player to push most of the rotation hierarchy down a notch

As the big names fly off the board, I think it's pretty clear that your #2 isn't happening.
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#14
How about Gallo or Tiger Woods, Scott?
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#15
(11-20-2020, 12:15 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Two things stand out to me as needs

1. Big wing
2. A high enough quality player to push most of the rotation hierarchy down a notch


OPJ.  That dude is the answer to so many issues here.  Go get him!
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#16
I think we start the year with a lineup of

Luka / Brunson / JJB
JRich / Burke / Terry
THJ / Green
DFS / Johnson
Maxi / Boban / Powell

When KP comes back, Powell gets into shape, and the new guys acclimate, it might shift to

Luka / Brunson / JJB
JRich / Burke / Terry
THJ / DFS / Green
Johnson / Maxi
KP / Powell / Boban
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#17
Bumping this thread. @"fifteenth" maybe rename now that its post-free agency.

I agree with @"Branduil" that the starting lineup will be Luka, Rich, THJ, DFS, & Maxi.
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#18
Isn't it situational on the team you play against. For instance, how do you line up against a big backcourt like Pelicans? 

With Steven Adams © Brandon Ingram (PF) and Zion (SF).

Do you send out
WCS © Kleber (PF) and Johnson(SF) 

Definitely going to be fun seeing how it matches against other teams.
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#19
Pre-KP return:

Luka-Brunson-(Burke)
JRich-Burke-(THJ)-Terry-Green
THJ-(DFS)-Wes-(Green)
DFS-Johnson-(Maxi)-(Powell)
Maxi-WCS-Powell-Boban

Parentheses indicate a secondary role for that player. I expect the two rookies and Boban to get very little burn indeed, let alone the two-ways. Powell will only play in garbage time as he is eased back in. If JJB makes the team, it is a mistake. So the 10-man rotation is essentially:

Luka (1)-Brunson (9)
JRich (2)-Burke (6)
THJ (3)-Wes (10)
DFS (4)-Johnson (7)
Maxi (5)-WCS (8)

KP's return - employ morphing technology over the course of a month or two, with things ending up as:

Luka-Brunson-(Burke)
JRich-Burke-(THJ)-Terry-Green
THJ-(DFS)-Wes-(Green)
Johnson-DFS-(Maxi)-(Powell)
KP-Maxi-WCS-Powell-Boban

I agree that KP needs more of the bully-boy next to him with Johnson. WCS is of course the main casualty to a lineup that ends up:

Luka (1)-Brunson (9)
JRich (3)-Burke (6)
THJ (4)-Wes (10)
Johnson (5)-DFS (7)
KP (2)-Maxi (8)

Note that, in all lineups, yes, I do believe that Wes will be 10th in minutes played (11th in the end-of-the-season boxscores behind both KP and WCS).
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#20
Terry
Iwumdu
Green
Hinton
Bey
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