(10-20-2020, 02:06 AM)cow Wrote: We've got three players on fresh/reasonable contracts that while aren't untouchable should only be used for clear cut upgrades: Curry (Elite shooting), Maxi (one of the more versatile defensive big men) and DFS (3&D starter kit who has shown improvement each year). We'll have to pay a tax to move off of Wright but if that price is too steep, you just keep him for a year, hope year two is better and then pay a lesser price in year three if the relationship isn't salvageable.
1. It is a fact we lack two starter materials players. Neither Curry or Maxi are one. DFS is a meh starter. So you can either hope the #18 and #31 picks of the world will become starters very soon, you can trade, or you can hope for free agency. If you trade, you have to give up something.
2. It is also a fact we need to get rid of 2 of our long term contracts (Powell, Wright, Curry, Maxi) until summer of 2021 to get max cap space in 2021. This will cost you at least #18 and #31. The risk you have by postponing it - #18 and #31 don't have immediate impact, so you will have to use 2025 and 2027 FRP to dump that salary.
Level of unrealistic evaluation of our assets is just mindblowing here. When looking at other players, they can only get worse or are an injury liability. When looking at our players, which with the exception of Wright and Jackson all had carreer years, they can only get better and it is impossible for them to get injured.
Take a look at Curry for example. I love the guy. BUT. He literally had two ok seasons in his career, he is 30 years old, he has a history of injury problems, he only has one elite skill (shooting), while he is meh in everything else and defensive liability.
Maxi. 28 years old. Plays solid defense. BUT. Extremely limited offensively, basically to catch and shoot three pointers (two thirds of his attempts are three pointers). Meh rebounder. Had a good shooting regular season which failed him completely in the playoffs, making him useless on the offensive side.
Both Maxi and Curry have ok contracts. But you can't really claim someone would see them as more than they are. Good role players. As a team, our most glaring need is to improve defense, while not sacrificing a lot of offense. So I really, really don't understand what is so confusing when players like Oladipo and Richardson are being discussed. Both have been better players through their careers than our role players in their peak season. Their peak season was way above Curry or Maxi peak season.
(10-20-2020, 03:05 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: One S/W of Powell and a small trade of 5.7 mil gets you right at Giannis max (*If the cap stays at 109). Literally just a Wright/Kleber/Curry trade with 3 mil less coming in and the Mavs are there. That can happen in an instant.
That is just not true. Dan did a calculation a couple of times. You get to get rid of two of those guys to get to max cap space. So two out of Curry, Maxi, Wright and Powell need to be gone completely. We have 84 mil of guaranteed salary in 2021, not counting the rookie deals we might get (let's say add 3,5 million if you sign both #18 and #31). And of course not signing any long term money in 2020.
(10-20-2020, 03:05 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Have the best possible product to show to Giannis rather than strip the team down and pray.
I don't think anyone is promoting this option. Trading longer term players for (better) short term players is not stripping down. It just gives options in 2021.