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(06-07-2023, 10:38 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Ok, this to me is the best argument to S/W Bertans. It all hinges on the execution though. It does make a much better case to use #10 to dump Bertans contract, however the 10 is overcompensation and there is little on their team I want back (Sochan?). SA seems like the only option at the draft, and with Wallace almost certainly available there would be really good incentive IMO. Question becomes what 3rd team? 

 
Bey to Dal

Can SA absorb that much salary at the draft?  


SA is the only team that can absorb Bertans in June (Brooklyn can but won't).  SA has about $22mm of room, so they could actually take Bertans and McGee.  Unfortunately, that space will come at a high price.  Just as a for instance, would Phoenix give away Shamet for zero return if they could?

I kind of like Utah as a trade partner in a trade down.  They just have so much stuff to deal with...16, 28 and three picks in 2025.  They have all sorts of TE's.  And, they don't have cap/tax issues in 23/24 (this is important).  They have a TPE big enough to absorb Maxi, another big enough to absorb McGee and still another that would take the guaranteed part of Reggie.   They don't have a logical player we might take in a direct trade. OKC is another candidate.  They can absorb Reggie (and keep him) and we move down two spots.  Maybe we take back Kenrich Williams as part of the deal to provide a cheap wing defender with more size than Reggie.  Or, maybe we swap McGee for K-Rich and they take Reggie into their TE.  They also have 3 first rounders in 2024.

So, your thinking in terms of this being a multi-team deal makes sense.  We involve a team like Utah/OKC to crawl far enough below the first apron that we have room to do some things.  If you can get far enough under, your offseason additions are: 

1. one trade that fully leverages the allowed trade spread, 
2. whatever draft pick you still have and 
3. one of either:
     a. The Full MLE or 
     b. What your get back from a Wood S&T or a Bertans trade with full spread (which opens up the world beyond just FA's)


I think the path to one of the guys we talk about a lot (Collins, Draymond, Capela, Ayton) from a team that needs to dump salary is to send out salary to someone like OKC or Utah and move down a few slots.  That way, Atlanta or GS or Phoenix isn't taking the full brunt of the matching salary.  You have to trust your scouts.  You also have to muck up the trade enough that it doesn't look like a straight salary dump.
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New CBA agreement - by F Gump - 04-01-2023, 01:35 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by ItsGoTime - 04-02-2023, 12:20 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by Mavs2021 - 04-02-2023, 12:30 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 04-05-2023, 08:40 AM
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RE: New CBA agreement - by cow - 04-05-2023, 01:54 PM
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RE: New CBA agreement - by IamDougieFresh - 04-06-2023, 12:09 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by ThisIStheYear - 04-07-2023, 12:50 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by ItsGoTime - 04-07-2023, 01:05 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 04-08-2023, 07:22 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by MFFL - 04-11-2023, 06:43 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by Chicagojk - 04-17-2023, 01:19 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 04-17-2023, 04:32 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 04-25-2023, 10:13 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by Chicagojk - 04-25-2023, 10:36 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 04-25-2023, 11:03 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by F Gump - 04-25-2023, 12:30 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 04-25-2023, 05:31 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by chaparral - 04-25-2023, 06:50 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 04-25-2023, 10:11 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DallasMaverick - 04-25-2023, 10:44 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 04-25-2023, 11:15 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by Jym - 04-25-2023, 11:20 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by ItsGoTime - 04-25-2023, 12:19 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by F Gump - 04-26-2023, 06:47 PM
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RE: New CBA agreement - by ThisIStheYear - 05-19-2023, 05:00 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by ItsGoTime - 05-21-2023, 10:52 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by F Gump - 06-07-2023, 01:18 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 06-07-2023, 06:30 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DallasMaverick - 06-07-2023, 08:33 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by F Gump - 06-07-2023, 09:12 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by ItsGoTime - 06-07-2023, 10:38 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 06-08-2023, 07:33 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by MarkAguirreWrathofGod - 06-08-2023, 08:33 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by ItsGoTime - 06-08-2023, 08:42 PM
RE: New CBA agreement - by F Gump - 06-09-2023, 12:11 AM
RE: New CBA agreement - by DanSchwartzgan - 06-19-2023, 08:05 PM
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