I find the forum's views on Green interesting.
While I don't think he's a bad player, or someone the Mavs need to move, I don't see him as a must-keep core piece.
For all the talk that he's going to be so super in the years ahead, I just don't see it. Part of the issue is that his progress (when it comes) is in teeny tiny steps. In fact, he's gone backwards this year.
I know many think he was a "bargain-priced" player, and like him because of that, but he signed at about where I thought he would (based on how valuable I thought he was), so I don't get any warm fuzzies over him here as a supposed "bargain" player (which may be part of why I see him differently than most seem to). Not sure he is, and even think he might be a bit overpaid, although I'm not griping about the deal he got.
His reticence to shoot is showing no signs of going away - in fact, it's gotten worse this year. And his shooting efficiency has gone from superior to mediocre.
He is helpful in some areas, like being active and being a pest on defense, but even his defense is meh-ish (per BR, he's the 11th best Mav as a defender).
To me, he's the SG/SF version of Powell -- his hustle and can-do attitude makes him a usable player, but his ceiling is so low because of all the things he does not do.
It also concerns me that Kidd praises him for not scoring points. I understand the desire to make your players feel good, but I think it sends the wrong message to give him a pat on the butt for the crap part of his game. As for whether that issue can be resolved, I'm beginning to think it cannot. More and more I am coming to believe what we see is all we will ever get.
While I don't think he's a bad player, or someone the Mavs need to move, I don't see him as a must-keep core piece.
For all the talk that he's going to be so super in the years ahead, I just don't see it. Part of the issue is that his progress (when it comes) is in teeny tiny steps. In fact, he's gone backwards this year.
I know many think he was a "bargain-priced" player, and like him because of that, but he signed at about where I thought he would (based on how valuable I thought he was), so I don't get any warm fuzzies over him here as a supposed "bargain" player (which may be part of why I see him differently than most seem to). Not sure he is, and even think he might be a bit overpaid, although I'm not griping about the deal he got.
His reticence to shoot is showing no signs of going away - in fact, it's gotten worse this year. And his shooting efficiency has gone from superior to mediocre.
He is helpful in some areas, like being active and being a pest on defense, but even his defense is meh-ish (per BR, he's the 11th best Mav as a defender).
To me, he's the SG/SF version of Powell -- his hustle and can-do attitude makes him a usable player, but his ceiling is so low because of all the things he does not do.
It also concerns me that Kidd praises him for not scoring points. I understand the desire to make your players feel good, but I think it sends the wrong message to give him a pat on the butt for the crap part of his game. As for whether that issue can be resolved, I'm beginning to think it cannot. More and more I am coming to believe what we see is all we will ever get.