06-05-2023, 01:44 PM
(06-05-2023, 01:13 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Have the stretch-waive rules changed? Pretty sure you have to guarantee the full salary to s-w a player. You can´t s-w a buyout. That means Bullock would be 3.6M over three years and Bertans would be 6.6M over five years. S-W Bertans or Bullock never made any sense. THJ makes no sense due to his declining contract actually becoming an asset against a rising cap. The only buyout candidate imho is Joel at 2.7M over five years.
The stretch and the buyout are different issues, and can overlap. There's also a "right of set off" that can enter into the equation and alter the math.
You may be thinking of what happens when buyouts are more frequent, which is after the trade deadline with players whose contracts are expiring. In those cases, the buyout amount can't be stretched, but it has to do with the timing of the waiver itself that accompanies the buyout, rather than any broad prohibition. (S-W isn't allowed on waiver after Sept 1.)
You certainly do NOT have to guarantee any NG salary, as part of a s-w.
Whether a player is willing to accept a further reduction in his contract if he is waived certainly would vary, and be a matter of negotiation, and the biggest factor would be whether he can sign a new deal once he's a FA, and for how much. Sometimes a player wants to go elsewhere, and will accept less for the opportunity. But the right of set-off, which is written into any contract and can be modified, also comes into play, which reduces the amount owed by orig team if player signs a new deal.
If done this summer...
- Bullock s-w would be 1.8 x 3
- Bertans s-w would be 4.4 x 5
No one is talking about a THJ s-w