TDL Archived: The 2nd Rnd Pick Yankee Swap

[DanSchwartzgan]

Hell, the Nets can probably get a better deal than what some of you are suggesting by simply agreeing to sign and trade him to whichever stupid team wants him this summer. 

This bargain basement "fleecing" of the Nets at the deadline is not going to happen. You're all setting yourselves up for disappointment.

Isn’t that what a negotiation looks like.  You ask for the moon.  I counter asking for the stars and sky.  I think Dallas can walk away if they don’t get what they want.  You seem to think they won’t be able to help themselves and are destined to make a bad deal.

I think the question here is what are we competing against.  It is a two part question.  If it is Us vs. LAL, part one is the contract going forward.  Is LAL willing to trade for him ‘naked’?  In other words, give up the assets needed on the hope Kyrie will sign this summer.  I sure wouldn’t.  I would predict no one is doing this on a long term basis and so FG’s S&T for 2/$79mm is likely an even playing field.  I just can’t see anyone hitching their wagon to Irving for longer than that ESPECIALLY since such a hitching can’t be agreed to now.

So, what is the talent LA has to offer?  It won’t be RW and two picks.  As you’ve noted, Brooklyn wants to win now.  It will have to involve a third team.  Someone has to want the LA picks, be willing to take RW for a few months and have some assets to give away.  Utah is the logical place.  I’ll presume Conley, Vanderbilt and one of the scoring guards (Clarkson, Beasley or Sexton)…no picks.  

So, let’s compare.  SD vs. Conley?  I know who I’d take if it were 2018, but for this year and next, it is close.  DFS vs. Guard?  Brooklyn already has plenty of no-D scorers.  It is why they don’t want THJ.  So, I’m not sure they’d particularly value Clarkson, Beasley or Sexton.  DFS fits so perfectly into the Claxton, Durant, DFS front court.  I’d think he’d be highly valued.  Add SD and one of their floor spacers and they have a starting unit.  Does Vandy move the needle.  Probably not.  He can’t be played with Claxton or Simmons.

I think we have just as competitive an offer as LA can make using pieces from Utah.  I think we have a core of a deal.  I certainly wouldn’t add Green or a pick if I’m giving up DFS and Dinwiddie.  In fact, I think I’ve improved your chances by converting Irving into two very useful players.  I’m with Kamm, I want something back in such a deal.  Their 2023 pick is probably their best asset.  I don’t believe that line of thinking is that far off.