TDL Archived: The 2nd Rnd Pick Yankee Swap

[Mavs2021]

I like your creativity.

Doing a Turner renegotiation-and-extend would definitely factor into a Collins-to-Indy deal which uses Indy cap room. But that Turner situation can go into so many different results - it can become a huge raise with a declining year-over-year, a not as big raise with an increasing year-over-year, or it could even end as a decision to (try to) sign him in the summer instead. Or, it could lead to Turner saying no to everything, and then getting traded (although, while an extend-and-trade is allowed, he can't be traded with an extension that starts with a renegotiation). Or maybe Indy lands on a decision to try to sign-and-trade him in the summer (using Bird rights and hoping for multiple suitors) and get value that way.

My point is, as complex as the Turner situation is, I think that decision is what happens FIRST for Indy. That then defines how much cap room they might have left for a Collins pursuit, and impacts how that might look. But until Turner decision is in their past, I don't think they will want to use a giant chunk of cap room for a Collins deal, lest it make the Turner situation even harder to navigate.

All of that impacts what a team might be able to extract from the Pacers, having a feel for what they are trying to do overall.

Unfortunately, if the Mavs want to get a really good deal out of this, I think the Indy situation is several layers too complex for Cuban to negotiate successfully.

Mavs would basically need Turner to commit to Dallas. He tried in the past, if you believe the reports. Allegedly it failed due to Cuban´s dislike to sign/acquire talented players that want to play in Dallas.  

If Turner says Dallas only, I guess a 1st should do the job, despite our lack of capspace. I think that is a good investment, cause I have a hard time believing in these mythical star player trades, where the going rate is 3-4 first round picks, plus a talented young player, plus some medium turn cap relief. We cannot even put together such a package let alone outbid the competition.