TDL Archived: The 2nd Rnd Pick Yankee Swap

[dirkfansince1998]

Did you say the same thing about the extra contract length and money in the KP for Din/Bertans swap? 

These terrible contracts we give out and collect is why we don't have cap space.

I wanted to sell KP after the first offseason and was happy when they finally got rid of him. Would argue that the improvement leading to a deep playoff run was worth the trade. Situation wasn´t comparable. Mavs had more options to improve. Options they wasted in the last summer. Not to mention that in the THJ-DR example the Mavs would receive draft compensation from the Heat.

I don´t think KP improved his value since the trade. And would argue that the Mavs could trade Dinwiddie for a minor positive return at any given time. From a pure retooling/asset management point of view that´s better than having KP. But it´s not going to happen because the Mavs aren´t going to sell him.

The contract issues don´t start with trades. They start with contracts the Mavs handed out themself. KP, Powell, THJ. Or McGee this summer. Self-inflicted misery. Trying to get out of those deals is difficult but unless you want to stay on the treadmill sitting out those contracts and waiting for the next plan powder window it´s not an option. Either make win now moves (proposed by other posters) or take a step back and add minor assets to retool (proposed among others also by me).

But that is the key, the returns need to be overpays.

No team is willing to overpay and it´s not like the Mavs are negotiating with idiots. If that is the baseline for any trade there will never be a deal to your liking. I guess that´s the part that I don´t get and it´s not really about you. More of a general observation. We spent most of our time bitching and complaining about the same players but when trade talks come up we are expecting some kind of compensation for the very same players. Leading to widespread disappointment when a deal is made.
Underrating and overrating the same players at the same time.

I don't think a FRP for the additional money and contract length is worth the swap for THJ and Robinson.

Lets phrase it differently. THJ for Duncan Robinson and Josh Green. Is that a deal you would consider? What is the kind of overpay you would need to pull the trigger.

And yes, I've advocated for selling off Din and DFS if the returns are good.  But that is the key, the returns need to be overpays.   Luka is already frustrated enough so you need to put a plan in front of him for improving.

Same question. What is your asking price? Of course there are no brainer deals but it´s not like the Heat will enter negotiations and offer three 1sts.