TDL Archived: The 2nd Rnd Pick Yankee Swap

[Kammrath]

You argue that Din is the cause of all of our defensive woes with on/off numbers.

I respond with your same numbers showing the entire starting lineup is the problem.

You ignore my response, and switch gears and focus on his overall net rating.

I respond with a logical fallacy in looking at on/off with no context.

You ignore that response and go back to the defense argument with no new information, but terms like "statistical facts".

I can see this is getting nowhere so I will stop responding to this thread, but I will continue to call you out when you post misleading stats.  You had me rethinking my position (I am willing and have changed my opinion based on quality arguments and information on this board) when you posted his defensive on/off for the season.  That looks like he is single handily crushing the team defense until you go look and see that the top 6 rotational players all have roughly the same D rating (they are all bad).

Your starting assumption is WRONG about my position. That is why I keep going back to ground zero.

I am not saying SD is the "CAUSE" of anything. 

Here is my quote again:

"SD is somehow (whether his play or his use by the coaches or his dynamic alongside other players, etc) central to the team defense issue through 41 games this season."

His presence is somehow central to the issue. Correlation is certainly part of it. I am NOT saying SD is the "CAUSE"---I never used that word. You are putting it in my mouth. 

Until we agree on my basic premise I am going to keep going there and not chase further down the rabbit hole. 


And again, it is a statistical FACT that the Mavs have been much better without SD on the court this year. That is 100% indisputable. But that doesn't mean SD singlehandedly is the "cause" for it (and I never, ever claimed it did).