12-22-2022, 04:39 PM
(12-22-2022, 04:24 PM)F Gump Wrote: If you say so, okay. If anything, I only think it misses on nuance, but whatever you say.
FWIW there were lots of things you shotgunned that really didn't align with my points at all, in fact where you lecture me on the OPPOSITE of what I say as if you "win," but I just tried to steer you back by repeating my pov -- until you do this stuff. So if you're pissed, dude, that's on you. I'm still not interested in continuing to discuss further.
And trying to prove a point by referring to discussions from 12 years ago that I didn't even have, what kind of nonsense is that? I know what I thought then, and what I heard then, and I don't think you're even close in your general characterizations. (I'd take that TY on this team and think he'd be ideal. Wish that was an option.)
On the relevant stuff, I don't buy your points on Wood, or Kidd, or a lot of the rest, and I don't think the Mavs have been messing up with their head up their butt. You think otherwise, I get it, and we can agree to disagree.
You can argue this with someone else if you wish, but please don't include me (or say I said this or that, since you aren't diligent to try to accurately relate what I am trying to say).
I'm not pissed now, nor in general with you, whether we agree or disagree. That one, specific paraphrasing by you that I mentioned drew me pretty far offsides, mostly because I interpreted it as a willful misinterpretation of what I feel I've been clear about in the 9,000 posts we've all written to debate this topic. Maybe I misinterpreted. If so, sorry!
To me, there are two sides of this conversation, one which you (rightly, imo) have been the voice of reason on since the beginning, about how it's up to Wood to live up to what's expected of him and become a professional, not about the Mavericks giving anything to him. The other is about what role, in an ideal world, Wood should play. On that topic, @"DanSchwartzgan", whose opinions I also respect, and I could not be more far apart. I am more convinced today than I ever have been that I have the right of that.
I read your offering as if you thought I was arguing against the first point, not debating the second part. To be fair, they are obviously overlapping to a large extent, so tricky to separate, and I'm not insensitive to the realities of trying to make any plan with a professional athlete who has shown a history of being undependable. In fact, I'm pretty sure I was one of the first around here to bring that up after the trade.
Now, if you feel I misinterpreted your initial offering today and misconstrued any of your points in a similarly frustrating way, well that's possible, and I apologize.
I'm here to discuss the Mavs, not to "win".
What I don't get is how disagreeing with someone amounts to "victim schtick"...I'd like to think that if I was running some type of schtick I'd at least be aware of it.
I do not care if you respond or not. I will quote whom I wish (including you) and engage how I wish (within the bounds of good taste). I will continue to respect your contributions whether you think I'm an idiot or whatever, and when I feel like engaging, I will.