TDL Archived: The 2nd Rnd Pick Yankee Swap

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Could be true, and your take on Thibs is good.

However, Thibs may be stuck with reality, because NY's desire for an All-Star player is probably "Mitchell or bust." In such a deal, matching salary is an issue, UT won't want to accept multi-year crap (like Randle or Fournier), and Rose is the biggest expiring on the NY roster. When you look at the alternatives, Rose almost MUST be included.

I keep landing on a deal which has Rose (as expiring filler) as a given, and the negotiating points are: 1 the quantity/specifics of the pick package, and
2 which set of young players are included with Rose (out of Barrett, Toppin, Quickley, Grimes).

Regardless of whether I think they (Randle/Fournier) are crap, there is no such thing as a bad contract for a Utah team clearly currently constructed to suck for the next 2-4 years. If Ainge can get an extra 1st round pick and/or Grimes for eating the bad contract of Fournier, he´ll take that over the expiring contract of Rose.

I think this is actually a pretty straight forward deal, if it happens.

Barrett/Fournier for Mitchell + picks.

This would leave the Jazz with max contracted RJ Barrett plus the rookies and literally nobody else in the summer of 2024. Everybody else (Bogdanovic, Conley, Fournier, Beasley, Clarkson, THT, Gay) expires.

I honestly don´t get why the Knicks are even considering this with the reported five first round picks. If Barrett takes another leap (like he has each season), you are looking at 23/7/4 next year. I´m not even sure I´d make the team better long-term with the straight up players deal.

Only way I´d give Utah the five first round picks is if I get to keep Barrett.  Brunson + Mitchell + Barrett is at least a core I can point to.