11-12-2020, 08:13 PM
(11-12-2020, 04:14 PM)Kammrath Wrote:(11-12-2020, 04:02 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: However, to commit the resources it seems like it would ACTUALLY take to move up high enough to get him (unless he falls much farther than we think) they’d have to be willing to commit to him in a way that could potentially slow this whole train down quite a bit. That’s the part that feeds my doubts. They’d have to LOVE him, not just like him.
Did you see my post at the very end of the 70th page of this thread?
I really think there is smoke about the Mavs and #10 if you connect the dots. Meaning I think that is the spot they think they can get to. One of the rumors yesterday talked about such a thing would be contingent on a guy the Mavs liking actually being there though.
Let's go with that rumor for fun....
The Mavs would give up #18 + DFS to get there according to that rumor. I think Hayes can very realistically slide to #10 (assuming the DraftExpress guys are right). DFS is a lot to give up for the Mavs so you better LOVE the guy you are getting in return (like you said). But I also don't think giving up DFS in any way sets the Mavs backward in their move toward contending.
P.S. I do think Hayes will need some time to develop his right hand and his spot up shooting, but I do think he can almost immediately contribute off the bench. I think he has been thrown in the fire enough in Europe to have gone through a lot of the growing pains. But again that right hand and that spot up shooting needs a LOT of improvement.
P.P.S Adding the Givony quote for more context:
Quote:"Talking to teams, even behind Sacramento at 12, people have no idea where he's going," said Jonathan Givony on The Lowe Post. "You hear stuff from some of these teams that are in the late lottery, the mid first, the mid teens- it's hard to find any one team that's absolutely in love with Killian Hayes. His range is huge.
"Now apparently two of the teams that really like him the most, I don't know if he's at their top of their board but Chicago at four and Detroit at seven. You do hear some chatter there that's he's in the mix among four or five other guys. I don't know if he's going to get there. Maybe if there's some areas where these teams draft down, maybe then he's the guy. It wouldn't shock me if on draft night he fell out of the lottery altogether. I think he should be somewhere in that 10 to 15 mix, but I'm having a really hard time finding an actual home for him."
How far do we need to move up to be able to draft Hayes? No doubt this kid can play and will be a great player. Too many skills to not be valuable in the NBA.
I think its obvious he can read the plays and events before they happen, and to me this is probably the most important skill, one you cant teach later, just born with it.
He has some limitations. Cant use right hand, shooting. But he can play. He is one of the players that I feel will adjust no matter what in order to win. Id be happy if we can get Hayes, but I think its not realistic? He would be a great fit next to Luka. In many ways he has similar skillset to Luka, just not at Luka level. However, his passing is elite, and whenever you have two guards like this, the ball would flow and move so well on offense. His free throws are great, and that should translate to shooting in the NBA. Needs to work on 3 point shooting.