07-22-2022, 06:53 PM
(07-22-2022, 03:54 PM)F Gump Wrote: Another angle re DET and Kemba is that the Mavs don't have any actual participation planned in a Mitchell deal, but they do have things cooking with DET, and DET is waiting on NY/UT perhaps.
THJ for Burks-Kemba is a legal trade right now. Also doable is Kemba is bought out, and then THJ for Burks.
And of course, since I like Rose better, let's do this one nvolving DET instead: Rose is offloaded to the Mavs in a NY/UT deal for Mitchell, with THJ to DET for Burks, and UT having to take back no player or salary at all except 3 young developing prospects (Toppin, Quickley, Grimes).
UT gets Toppin, Quickley, Grimes, a barrel of picks from NY
NY gets Mitchell
DAL gets Rose-Burks
DET gets THJ
Interesting. I like the idea of THJ to Detroit. It feels like less of a betrayal for him to take less to stay here one year and be traded the next if the trade sends him ‘home’. I think Burks is a better fit for what Kidd seems to want. I like losing that third year of Hardaway’s remaining deal and I like turning one player into two. Are you making THJ for Kemba/Burks into two trades (the second using the TPE created by the first) to do it now and avoid aggregation?
What I hear about the NY/Utah negotiations is all over the place. I’m pretty certain in my read of things that Utah doesn’t want Barrett or Randle. As you’ve shown, there are Rose-plus constructs that work, but I also know that Thibs loves him some Rose. Obviously, Rose can’t be a deal killer for Mitchell, but while you are trying to illustrate paths to get Rose here, I’ve been looking for paths to get Fournier somewhere (and the math works well with the remaining Detroit space). Its not that I’m against Rose, I’m not. I hope it works out. I’m just looking for ways to do the bigger deal that don’t include him leaving NY and don’t include Fournier ending up in Utah. I do think there is a role in Detroit for what Fournier or Hardaway do…especially if Burks is gone.