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Luxury Tax Hell
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(02-16-2022, 10:27 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Because you assumed that THJ would maintain his 40% 3pt shooting and provide 15-16ppg. On a declining contract that is a valuable asset. He regressed which hurt his value. He got injured which cratered whatever value was left. It was a worst case scenario. 

If THJ left for nothing, I'm sure you'd be lambasting the front office for not retaining Timmy or getting some assets for him.

I agree they should have gotten something for THJ in a S&T. Didn´t need to be much. Diallo (player option 5M) + Olynyk would have been enough. Even better would have been going after Markkanen, with the decision against Porzingis seemingly already made or being discussed.

I don't think the Mavs will "pay a 1st" to get off of THJ and avoid the tax. Especially since they have maybe 2 of those available for the foreseeable future. I think Dan is trying to point out that there is an excess amount of salaries, heavily stacked in one area of the roster. And if the Mavs want to be smart they'd use THJ along with our first to upgrade another position of need. 

Doesn´t seem realistic to me, that they´ll be able to upgrade the roster that way. What position would that even be? PF/C are probably cheaper than anything else on the free agent market and that is our biggest need. Players like Favors, Robin Lopez etc. will likely go for  $5M or less.


Of course we can also assume that Cuban really wants to avoid paying an excess of 50 mil bill for THJ and or Brunson and if thats the case then sure we can criticize Cubes. We haven't gotten any indication that's the case so far. In fact Cuban kind of alluded to the tax hell in an interview regarding Brunson, and he didn't seem against paying it to retain talent. 

The problem is that I don´t think Cuban ever views a 18th to 22nd pick as an asset. Maybe the new MBT will challenge and change that Cuban idea, but with everything I´m at the seeing is believing stage. I don´t think he cares as much about paying the tax per se, but the amount and who he is paying for. Getting off the bad contract and a useless asset to save millions will seem like a no brainer to the (old) MBT.

Boban is here because of his locker room presence and general fan engagement. I promise you Cuban is making more on Boban promotional deals than his 3.4 mil salary he's paying. Burke is a vestige of Donnie Nelson, and I agree it was/is a bad contract. Brown is 3 mil for a wing that doesn't care if he plays and can hit a 3. I don't think we've seen enough to be mad about him yet. 

I´m just looking at ways to reduce the tax bill without giving up the 2022 pick.


But given that we aren't going to be close to the tax line in 22-23, there really is no penalty for staying in it 1 year in the worst case scenario. So I don't think that the Mavs will rush to sell off THJ and use our first to make him attractive. TDL is the real hard deadline if the Mavs want to avoid the tax. By then THJ should be back to recoup his value.

Well let´s hope so, cause even with the crutch Porzingis gone, this team is still short of talent to make a competitive title challenge. Nailing that 2022 pick provides one of the best chances to upgrade our roster/outlook, because....

To me Mark Williams, who is currently projected around #19 has one of the most fluent running styles and speed I have seen on a seven footer recently. He seems to have sure hands inside and excellent footwork, too. People will view him as a dinosaur 7´0 C with an outdated back to the basket game and he´ll hopefully drop. I see Rudy Gobert/DeAndre Ayton/Clint Capela potential. I´ll eat the remaining cartilage in Porzingis´ good knee, if that guy doesn´t have a very productive 12 year NBA career.
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Luxury Tax Hell - by DanSchwartzgan - 02-15-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by omahen - 02-15-2022, 06:22 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by mvossman - 02-15-2022, 06:30 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by DanSchwartzgan - 02-16-2022, 07:02 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by mvossman - 02-15-2022, 06:26 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by omahen - 02-15-2022, 06:38 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 02-15-2022, 06:51 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by loki - 02-15-2022, 07:17 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 02-15-2022, 08:18 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Mavs2021 - 02-15-2022, 08:25 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jommybone - 02-15-2022, 11:44 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jason Terry - 02-16-2022, 11:15 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jommybone - 07-04-2022, 01:25 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Kammrath - 02-15-2022, 11:51 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by DanSchwartzgan - 02-16-2022, 04:32 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Branduil - 02-16-2022, 06:17 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Mavs2021 - 02-16-2022, 06:19 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by omahen - 02-16-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by SleepingHero - 02-16-2022, 10:27 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Mavs2021 - 02-16-2022, 12:07 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-16-2022, 11:28 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Kammrath - 02-16-2022, 12:15 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-16-2022, 12:24 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Halfnir - 02-16-2022, 01:17 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by SatnamSingh - 02-16-2022, 01:27 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-16-2022, 01:32 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by mvossman - 02-16-2022, 02:48 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 02-16-2022, 04:21 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-16-2022, 05:47 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 02-16-2022, 06:11 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-16-2022, 06:31 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jason Terry - 02-16-2022, 06:15 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Dirknows - 02-16-2022, 07:47 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-16-2022, 08:26 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by dirkfansince1998 - 02-16-2022, 08:35 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by ItsGoTime - 02-16-2022, 08:59 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by soog - 02-16-2022, 09:33 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-16-2022, 09:36 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Kammrath - 02-16-2022, 09:44 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-16-2022, 09:51 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Dirknows - 02-16-2022, 10:50 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jommybone - 02-17-2022, 12:14 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by dirkfansince1998 - 02-16-2022, 09:52 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by omahen - 02-17-2022, 04:09 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by SleepingHero - 02-17-2022, 07:14 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-17-2022, 08:13 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 07-04-2022, 01:30 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 07-04-2022, 02:40 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 07-04-2022, 03:05 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 07-04-2022, 03:54 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Smitty - 07-04-2022, 04:13 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StepBackJay - 07-04-2022, 02:50 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StepBackJay - 07-04-2022, 04:15 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 07-04-2022, 04:22 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 07-04-2022, 04:34 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Smitty - 07-04-2022, 04:44 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 07-04-2022, 04:55 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Smitty - 07-04-2022, 04:59 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by ThisIStheYear - 07-05-2022, 09:19 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Scott41theMavs - 07-05-2022, 09:24 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 07-04-2022, 04:42 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 07-04-2022, 04:44 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 07-04-2022, 05:01 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by hakeemfaan - 07-04-2022, 05:16 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by hakeemfaan - 07-06-2022, 07:47 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StepBackJay - 07-06-2022, 07:52 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by hakeemfaan - 07-06-2022, 09:48 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 07-06-2022, 04:14 PM

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