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Luxury Tax Hell
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(02-16-2022, 06:19 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: You know what is most annoying about this. It once again smacks of no long-term planning at all.

The contract extensions for DFS and Brunson are nothing new, neither is the Porzingis contract (or the replacement contracts). So why sign THJ to that extension, when you basically already know that you do not want to pay the luxury tax. I guess there is still a chance Cuban will pay, but I think 99% of us expect him to package the 2022 1st round pick with one of the bad contracts to get out of the money.


Because you assumed that THJ would maintain his 40% 3pt shooting and provide 15-16ppg. On a declining contract that is a valuable asset. He regressed which hurt his value. He got injured which cratered whatever value was left. It was a worst case scenario. 

If THJ left for nothing, I'm sure you'd be lambasting the front office for not retaining Timmy or getting some assets for him.


(02-16-2022, 06:19 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: So basically we´ll have to pay up a 1st round pick, because Cuban extended THJ, but doesn´t want to face the consequences. If he simply let the contract run out last summer or turned a S&T into better manageable contracts, we could keep our 2022 1st round pick.

Also bad planning with Boban/Burke/S. Brown. That´s 10M in combined salaries that barely play.


I don't think the Mavs will "pay a 1st" to get off of THJ and avoid the tax. Especially since they have maybe 2 of those available for the foreseeable future. I think Dan is trying to point out that there is an excess amount of salaries, heavily stacked in one area of the roster. And if the Mavs want to be smart they'd use THJ along with our first to upgrade another position of need. 

Of course we can also assume that Cuban really wants to avoid paying an excess of 50 mil bill for THJ and or Brunson and if thats the case then sure we can criticize Cubes. We haven't gotten any indication that's the case so far. In fact Cuban kind of alluded to the tax hell in an interview regarding Brunson, and he didn't seem against paying it to retain talent. 

Boban is here because of his locker room presence and general fan engagement. I promise you Cuban is making more on Boban promotional deals than his 3.4 mil salary he's paying. Burke is a vestige of Donnie Nelson, and I agree it was/is a bad contract. Brown is 3 mil for a wing that doesn't care if he plays and can hit a 3. I don't think we've seen enough to be mad about him yet. 

But given that we aren't going to be close to the tax line in 22-23, there really is no penalty for staying in it 1 year in the worst case scenario. So I don't think that the Mavs will rush to sell off THJ and use our first to make him attractive. TDL is the real hard deadline if the Mavs want to avoid the tax. By then THJ should be back to recoup his value.
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Luxury Tax Hell - by DanSchwartzgan - 02-15-2022, 05:55 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by omahen - 02-15-2022, 06:22 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by mvossman - 02-15-2022, 06:30 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by DanSchwartzgan - 02-16-2022, 07:02 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by mvossman - 02-15-2022, 06:26 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by omahen - 02-15-2022, 06:38 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 02-15-2022, 06:51 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by loki - 02-15-2022, 07:17 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 02-15-2022, 08:18 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Mavs2021 - 02-15-2022, 08:25 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jommybone - 02-15-2022, 11:44 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jason Terry - 02-16-2022, 11:15 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jommybone - 07-04-2022, 01:25 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Kammrath - 02-15-2022, 11:51 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by DanSchwartzgan - 02-16-2022, 04:32 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Branduil - 02-16-2022, 06:17 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Mavs2021 - 02-16-2022, 06:19 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by omahen - 02-16-2022, 09:26 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by SleepingHero - 02-16-2022, 10:27 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Mavs2021 - 02-16-2022, 12:07 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-16-2022, 11:28 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Kammrath - 02-16-2022, 12:15 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-16-2022, 12:24 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Halfnir - 02-16-2022, 01:17 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by SatnamSingh - 02-16-2022, 01:27 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-16-2022, 01:32 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by mvossman - 02-16-2022, 02:48 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 02-16-2022, 04:21 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-16-2022, 05:47 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 02-16-2022, 06:11 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StrandedOnBeauboisHill - 02-16-2022, 06:31 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jason Terry - 02-16-2022, 06:15 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Dirknows - 02-16-2022, 07:47 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-16-2022, 08:26 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by dirkfansince1998 - 02-16-2022, 08:35 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by ItsGoTime - 02-16-2022, 08:59 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by soog - 02-16-2022, 09:33 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-16-2022, 09:36 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Kammrath - 02-16-2022, 09:44 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-16-2022, 09:51 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Dirknows - 02-16-2022, 10:50 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Jommybone - 02-17-2022, 12:14 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by dirkfansince1998 - 02-16-2022, 09:52 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by omahen - 02-17-2022, 04:09 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by SleepingHero - 02-17-2022, 07:14 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 02-17-2022, 08:13 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 07-04-2022, 01:30 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 07-04-2022, 02:40 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 07-04-2022, 03:05 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 07-04-2022, 03:54 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Smitty - 07-04-2022, 04:13 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StepBackJay - 07-04-2022, 02:50 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StepBackJay - 07-04-2022, 04:15 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 07-04-2022, 04:22 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 07-04-2022, 04:34 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Smitty - 07-04-2022, 04:44 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 07-04-2022, 04:55 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Smitty - 07-04-2022, 04:59 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by ThisIStheYear - 07-05-2022, 09:19 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by Scott41theMavs - 07-05-2022, 09:24 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by KillerLeft - 07-04-2022, 04:42 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by F Gump - 07-04-2022, 04:44 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by cow - 07-04-2022, 05:01 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by hakeemfaan - 07-04-2022, 05:16 PM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by hakeemfaan - 07-06-2022, 07:47 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by StepBackJay - 07-06-2022, 07:52 AM
RE: Luxury Tax Hell - by hakeemfaan - 07-06-2022, 09:48 AM
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