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(02-08-2022, 10:26 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Seems incredibly cheap right now. Guess we have to see what picks were involved.
Is McCollum a positive asset? Don´t get me wrong. A healthy McCollum would probably be the 2nd best player on the current Mavs roster but just like KP he is making max money and misses a lot of games.
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(02-08-2022, 10:26 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status...Teq7EpAAAA
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status...mNrLEpAAAA
Seems incredibly cheap right now. Guess we have to see what picks were involved.
Always fascinating to see how teams perceive value. We fans often over- or under-value.
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Are we really sure they are not trading Lillard, too?
He´s 31 with a nasty abdominal injury at the start of a 190M dollar contract.
Theoretically they can waive Hart/Bledsoe this summer for a total of just $4M, which means they´d have around $40M in capspace.
42.5 Lillard
11.6 Simons (caphold)
9.6 Nance
4.1 Little
4.1 Winslow
4.0 Dead Money
2.7 Johnson
1.5 Brown
..but does that look like a play-off team? Maybe if they spend the $40M well, it´s a play-in team.
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It´s unlikely but this is the kind of deal the Mavs should try to jump. Try to redirect a player like Hart to Dallas. If the Blazers are going for a rebuild they don´t need win now vets.
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02-08-2022, 10:50 AM
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Players are Hart, NAW (another young guard) and Satoransky.
Telling you Lillard is getting traded. If not now, then in the summer.
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(02-08-2022, 10:50 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Telling you Lillard is getting traded. If not now, then in the summer.
You might be right, but I don’t think so. I think they are just trying to clear enough space to give him the crazy huge extension he wants AND bring in a free agent of his choosing.
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So the Pelicans are getting Nance too...only gave up one first and two prospects.
The money doesn't seem to add up so curious how they're getting all this done.
Oh Nola had a big trade exception too.
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(02-08-2022, 11:12 AM)StrandedOnBeauboisHill Wrote: So the Pelicans are getting Nance too...only gave up one first and two prospects.
The money doesn't seem to add up so curious how they're getting all this done.
Oh Nola had a big trade exception too.
Lol, they killed our Markannen dream just for that ...
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(02-08-2022, 10:35 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Is McCollum a positive asset? Don´t get me wrong. A healthy McCollum would probably be the 2nd best player on the current Mavs roster but just like KP he is making max money and misses a lot of games.
I still say POR sold as low as they could go. At this point how do they even rebuild around Lilllard?
Now that the full trade is out they sold short too on Nance, who they just traded a first for not just 7 months ago.
New Orleans looks like they have retooled quite a bit, though still lacking heavily on a point guard.
Graham/Lewis Jr/Temple
McCollum/
Ingram/Herbert/Snell
Zion/Nance Jr
JV/Hernangomez
The talent is all there for them next year.
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So CJ goes from being #2 playing as #1 due to Dame injury and is now #2 playing #1 due to Zion injury? Does this really move the NOP needle any? At least until (if) Zion returns?
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60Mil in space in a summer where there is not many difference makers. Unless they can convince Beal to leave 50mil on the table to go to a losing team I don't see how this works.
This feels eerily similar to what the Mavs did right after 2011. Keep the payroll light and convince a star to come play with your aging superstar to run it back once more. Except now the Blazers haven't won anything, Lillard seemingly has one foot in and one foot out, and POR is a bottom dweller. Hard to convince premium talent to come to that.
This years FA crop doesn't look too great either. I'm shocked this is how the Blazers chose to play it.
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(02-08-2022, 11:39 AM)michaeltex Wrote: So CJ goes from being #2 playing as #1 due to Dame injury and is now #2 playing #1 due to Zion injury? Does this really move the NOP needle any? At least until (if) Zion returns?
They are desperate to show Zion they are ambitious. It is about next season
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(02-08-2022, 11:31 AM)SleepingHero Wrote:
I still say POR sold as low as they could go. At this point how do they even rebuild around Lilllard?
Now that the full trade is out they sold short too on Nance, who they just traded a first for not just 7 months ago.
New Orleans looks like they have retooled quite a bit, though still lacking heavily on a point guard.
Graham/Lewis Jr/Temple
McCollum/
Ingram/Herbert/Snell
Zion/Nance Jr
JV/Hernangomez
The talent is all there for them next year.
I don´t think CJ had any real value. Agree that they messed up the Nance part. Not to mention the RoCo + Powell trade last week. They gave up first round picks for those guys just a year ago. Now they are selling them for pennies on the dollar. Textbook example for bad asset management.
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