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2022 NBA Draft: #37 Jaden Hardy (6' 3", 6' 9" WS) to DAL | two 2nds to SAC
(05-29-2022, 03:01 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: It´s so fascinating to me, how Mavs fans always look to give up assets for players that they could literally have had for free for the last five years. The point is to find the next Richaun Holmes before he got paid and developed some reputation.

Richaun Holmes was the 37th pick once upon a time. Christian Wood was undrafted and bounced around like 12 teams, the Mavs included.

Why are we always looking to give up 1st round picks and assets for players that are available every summer?

That´s just lazy scouting that leads to a messy cap situation like ours.

Holmes is 29 year old averaging 10/7/1. That´s his peak. That´s his prime.

Why do we need to trade for him, when we have/had much younger options available in free agency/trades that are already or will be better than him within the next 12-24 months?

Heck there might be one on the Kings: Damian Jones.

He´s an UFA C, who is 26 years and started 15 games for the Kings last year.

In those 15 games the Kings went 6-9, he played 28 MPG, averaged 14/6/2, shooting 73/33/73.

You want Richaun Holmes from the Kings. There he is.

Doesn´t cost you a first round pick. Probably will not even cost the full TP-MLE.

Around the fringes of the rotation it´s about finding the nobody Richaun Holmes was, not the somebody he is.

Sorry to do this in the draft thread, but peak Holmes was in 20/21, not last season.  He had an EPM of 93 was in the 90th percentile of Block%, 87th percentile in DR% and 96th percentile in TS%.  Damian Jones has a negative EPM every single year of his career.  He's never once had a positive On-Off.  There is more to basketball than points and rebounds per game.  

The case for Holmes is very similar to the case for Dinwiddie (which so many here missed).  Dinwiddie was fantastic his final full pre-injury season in Brooklyn.  He didn't look like himself at all in DC, but largely returned to form once he got here.  Holmes put in three really nice seasons as a starter before last season.  Dallas might not be the best place for a guy with domestic violence charges hanging over his head, but he's miles better than Damian Jones or anyone we can get for the TP-MLE.

As to draft picks, a big man taken at 26 is years away from contributing to a serious playoff team.  The hit-rate in this area of the draft isn't high.  Yes, anyone can name names taken in this range or lower.  But what about all the misses.  No one ever names those names and there are MANY more of those.  If it weren't so, two former #8 picks in the draft wouldn't be sitting on our bench struggling to get minutes.
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