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BRUNSON BURNER: to NYK for 4yrs/$104M (no SnT) | NYK docked 2025 2nd for tampering
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(07-08-2022, 01:37 PM)Kammrath Wrote: https://twitter.com/wojtek_kowalik1/stat...2520704001




What are the benefits of that solution?
* Pistons get picks for facilitating the trade;
* Mavs get hefty trade exception for $14m;
* Knicks get to keep their $10.5m MLE and use it to sign Hartenstein and Sims (longer deal vs space route) and get $4.1 BAE and descending contracts
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The $14mm TPE means NY signs Brunson to a declining contract…something that has been rumored for about a week.  I think the odds are great that the most simple form of a 3-way is already in place…just waiting to see what can be added.

So, if this happens, watch for whether JB makes $24mm or $28mm to know the size of the TPE.  This also impacts the size of JB’s outgoing x 125% taking it to a match to $17.6mm.  Add in Green and you get to $21.47mm.

Some players within reach at $17.5mm that weren’t within reach with Brunson’s outgoing at $12.2mm…

M. Beasley
D. Robinson

Some players within reach at $21.47mm that weren’t with Brunson at $12.2mm plus Green…

B. Bogdanovic (UTH)
E. Gordon
B. Hield
T. Rozier

Bogdanovic is an interesting name given the Mitchell to NY rumors.  Part of the “compensation” to Utah might be moving his $19.5mm.  NY provides a boatload of picks and Fournier and we take on Bog’s money.  The Dallas first would likely be part of the NY package.  We could enhance that by removing the protection.  So, our outgoing is just Green and removing protection (plus JB obviously) for Bogdanovic?
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Could we use the TPE for in-coming S&Ts? Huh
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Bogdanovic would be GREAT off the bench for us. Din, THJ, Bojan, Maxi is a lot of firepower. Not too interested in the rest. Beasley is a chucker, as is Rozier and he’s under contract till like ‘26. Hield is a lesser well rounded THJ if that’s possible. Duncan Robinson fell out of Miami’s playoff rotation. If it’s Bogdanovic I’d be pretty excited. Would hate to see Josh Green go though. No way I’d give them Green and protections lifted. Powell and protections lifted would be a yes, I think.
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(07-08-2022, 03:59 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: What are the benefits of that solution?
 
* Mavs get hefty trade exception for $14m;
 


The $14mm TPE means NY signs Brunson to a declining contract 

Apologies.  I totally missed the date on this and that Kemba was in his trade matching number.  There isn't a path to Brunson at $28mm as a trade match for the outgoing they sent as Kemba is now official and can't be combined with Noel/Burks.  Those two only get JB to the $24mm number that is often quoted.

With the cutting of Gibson, there is enough room to get Brunson a declining contract starting at something in that same $28mm area if I've properly accounted for minimum slots before Sims is signed with part of the room MLE.  That would still get Dallas a $14mm TPE or $14mm in salary to trade match.  But, NY doesn't "need" Dallas to do this.  My guess is we don't pay for a TPE for the sake of a TPE.  But, we might have to pay for making JB a S&T at a dollar amount needed for a deal we have lined up (like some of those I mentioned).
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(07-08-2022, 07:23 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: With the cutting of Gibson, there is enough room to get Brunson a declining contract starting at something in that same $28mm area if I've properly accounted for minimum slots before Sims is signed with part of the room MLE.  That would still get Dallas a $14mm TPE or $14mm in salary to trade match.  But, NY doesn't "need" Dallas to do this.  My guess is we don't pay for a TPE for the sake of a TPE.  But, we might have to pay for making JB a S&T at a dollar amount needed for a deal we have lined up (like some of those I mentioned).


I'll rather just let JB go and not pay anything for a TPE that likely won't be used. Unless a TPE is absolutely necessary for a deal made in the same hour, just cut the loss and move on.
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Quote:Cuban's comments about JB: “It really wasn’t about the amount of money,” he said. “We really didn’t get a chance to make an offer. It was Jalen’s choice. And I understand it. He knew those guys his entire life. He grew up there. It makes perfect sense.” 
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(07-08-2022, 10:40 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal...s-qns6muvk

It’s always about the money…
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(07-08-2022, 10:40 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://www.newsday.com/sports/basketbal...s-qns6muvk

Quote:Cuban's comments about JB: “It really wasn’t about the amount of money,” he said. “We really didn’t get a chance to make an offer. It was Jalen’s choice. And I understand it. He knew those guys his entire life. He grew up there. It makes perfect sense.” 

If only there was an available Knicks player that felt the same way about Dallas.

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Our bench right now: Ntilikina, THJ, Green, Kleber, Powell.

No idea where this could go wrong offensively.
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(07-09-2022, 02:10 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBfxT--UA4

Knicks gunna Knick.  I don't see that working out well for them.
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Self serving spin from Cuban? Who could’ve predicted it. We never even “really” got to make an offer, really. No amount of money could’ve swayed JB, so why bother? And it’s totally understandable, commendable even, that he would want to leave his friends and our team. Those are his guys in NY. No amount of money would’ve changed things. Nothing to see here.
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He should have just offered a max “knowing” JB was leaving. Stick it to NY making them match and THEN Cuban can say the right thing.
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(07-09-2022, 02:18 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: If only there was an available Knicks player that felt the same way about Dallas.

[Image: Randle%2BTexas.jpeg]

Our bench right now: Ntilikina, THJ, Green, Kleber, Powell.

No idea where this could go wrong offensively.


I'd love to see the Mavs pick up Randle if only just to see how badly this board would implode. I think it would be pretty funny.
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(07-09-2022, 10:52 AM)Jakeospikez Wrote: I'd love to see the Mavs pick up Randle if only just to see how badly this board would implode. I think it would be pretty funny.

I love Randle but I always hoped we'd get him later in his career when he could become a super 6th man.  Just give the man the ball and let him cook 2nd units.
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(07-09-2022, 10:52 AM)Jakeospikez Wrote: I'd love to see the Mavs pick up Randle if only just to see how badly this board would implode. I think it would be pretty funny.

This will be a big year for Randle.  Was the '21 season just a one year deal or can he recapture that again?  If he doesn't he currently has 4 years left on his deal with the last year at 30 million.   That could really hang up future Knick plans.  They have future first round picks they could attach to move him, but that is less than ideal.   Randle, Brunson and RJ all at 20 million and above per year does not appear to be a sound strategy.   I assume their future plans is go get off Randle.   Him playing better would make that easier.
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(07-09-2022, 12:41 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: This will be a big year for Randle.  Was the '21 season just a one year deal or can he recapture that again?  If he doesn't he currently has 4 years left on his deal with the last year at 30 million.   That could really hang up future Knick plans.  They have future first round picks they could attach to move him, but that is less than ideal.   Randle, Brunson and RJ all at 20 million and above per year does not appear to be a sound strategy.   I assume their future plans is go get off Randle.   Him playing better would make that easier.

If they’re smart, they’ll move on now, imo. He’s not a fit with Brunson, I don’t think. I can’t imagine the pairing ending well for both.
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(07-09-2022, 12:46 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: If they’re smart, they’ll move on now, imo. He’s not a fit with Brunson, I don’t think. I can’t imagine the pairing ending well for both.

Yeah.   I imagine the reception for him is tepid.  So, how many picks would they need to attach to him?  Would a team take him as a reclamation project?  The issue is he has 4 year left on his contract and is a difficult fit on most teams.  Really best served being your lead scoring option, but in reality he probably isn't good enough to be a number one option.    His game is not best suited for a complimentary player.   

I sort of like him, but those four years left on his contract is rough.
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