06-07-2022, 01:08 PM
(06-07-2022, 10:08 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Who said anything about putting us over the top and what is the “top”? Next question, does Bullock/Kleber/Powell/#26/and the pick swaps put us over this “top”?
Both players are expiring, so future betting is as far out as that for now (of course, I myself would prefer an extend and trade or some bit of assurance Brooks wants to be here before making the deal). Also, Brooks is the exact type of player we should want to bring in. He has all around basketball skill, hustle and plays with an edge all at just-below-allstar level.
As far as injury history, I went back to see and there is no injury that is in the same place, so it’s not a huge deal to me. Him playing with reckless abandon could possibly be curved a bit to find the fine line as he’s entering his prime.
Why trade with Memphis? To get a good player of course. Why does Memphis trade with us? I don’t know what their team wants exactly, this trade assumes they want JJJ to take over the starting C spot and Adams is a barrier to that. When we add Maxi and Powell to their roster, that should solidify their big rotation with the possibility that Maxi starts for them next to JJJ. There are ?s in there, but I’m mostly trying to figure out an even trade between the teams.
As far as Adams and playing 5 out and how does it all work? I mean, first of all, 5 out is all this group of players we had on the team could do due to the basketball skills they had. Add more basketball skills and maybe Kidd can change things up to be less predictable. At the end of the day, Adams brings rebounding (a large Mavs weakness), rim protection from the start of the game (a large Mavs weakness), toughness (a large Mavs weakness), and good pick setting (something that will not change).
This trade makes us thinner in the front court? It swaps Maxi (really our only playoff playable big) for Adams while having all the same lower end big options (Hartenstein, Muscala et al) as has been discussed (we could still do Holmes and Harkless for THJ). I don’t see the big issue. On top of that, Adams is expiring, if he works, resign him at an appropriate salary. If not, move on.
The trade may not be fully even, I don’t know, but I can’t see why the Mavs (or Mavs fans) wouldn’t do this deal.
A couple of things. First, I misread your proposal. I interpreted your #26 to be the 26' pick (it was right there with 24' and 25' swaps). That obviously changes things. It would have been years before we could reasonably trade picks, which was the driver of putting us over the top question. I feel like we have one big trade left in us, and I want that to be the Kawhi/Jrue trade that hopefully puts us over the top (makes us legit contenders).
I'm not sure how those swaps would impact our ability to trade picks? They would obviously downgrade their value to some degree, but don't know if they block us from trading picks or not.
Adams played 26 minutes a game in the regular season and 16 in the playoffs. Maxi and Powell (who was useful in the regular season) played a combined 47 minutes in the regular season and Maxi played 25 in the playoffs (and outplayed Adams). We would definitely be losing regular season and playoff depth and potentially playoff performance. I'm not sure Adams is mobile enough to do what we like to do defensively and we could probably get roughly his production for a lot cheaper (17 mil plus assets).
Its not often two teams in the same division and roughly the same window (in this case teams on the upswing looking to compete now) make trades. If they each had blatant surpluses and gaping holes that matched, maybe. But I don't really see that here. No reason for them to downgrade Brooks to Bullock unless they are weary of his injury history (A reason for us to stay away as well).
I think our most likely way to get that high level two way player is to trade with a rebuilding team looking for assets. In roughly 14 months we will have access to all of our picks and in a much better position to make a big trade, assuming we don't send out any picks other than the 22 before then.