(03-17-2022, 12:52 AM)F Gump Wrote: Answer:1 - Talk about weak take. They just signed him to a 4 year contract and are trying to trade him half a season later because they want more shooting on the team right now? Not buying. If he was playing well during his time before the injury, there would be no question as to if they stay with him.
1 At the TDL, THJ could not provide ANY shooting help to Mavs, because he was injured. They wanted shooting help NOW.
2 Don't accept that this was a set-in-stone referendum on "this is the THJ value" for 29 other teams around the league.
3 Like all deadline non-deals, it was simply a snapshot in time, of the answer then.
4 More real to say Mavs needed a suitor that had to meet all 4 of (a) see overall value in having THJ, (b) don't care he's injured, ( c) have the player(s) the Mavs want, who are also a salary match for trade purposes, and (d) will say yes in light of their own needs and current situation ... and failed to find that team.
5 Personally, I seriously doubt ANY team actually declined trading for THJ because of his shooting stats this season, and think that's a fairly weak take in light of how the league tends to work, but who knows.
2 - Correction, all 30 teams. The Mavs didn't (possibly don't) want him either.
3 - How does that snapshot become any different in the offseason when he still hasn't played a game since the injury?
4 - OK, so some substance. Easier to say, no one wanted him including the Mavs.
5 - So, every single team approached thought, don't want him cause he's injured right now. He's a great shooter on a long term contract that gets better with time, but we don't want him because he won't help us this year. Gotcha. The league is just itching for these guys, but won't touch an injured one on a long term contract.
(03-17-2022, 12:56 AM)mvossman Wrote: THJ is not a shooter who can't shoot (that would be Bertans right now) he is a scorer that was still putting up over 14 a game while his shot was off. The advanced stats have both of them as better than average players the last couple of years, and average players this year. I'm guessing we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.So he's a scorer like KP on a smaller scale. So take the KP trade, scale it down, and that is what you should expect. Remember your valuation of SD and DB before the last 11 games SD has played.
Holmes can get bullied like Powell can (although I don't think its as bad). That is the tradeoff you make when you want to play centers that can guard the P&R and don't get run off the court. The extra rebounding and significant upgrade in rim protection would make a big difference in my mind.