03-09-2022, 08:36 PM
(03-09-2022, 07:32 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I saw those trades and I don’t think it takes the other teams into account when making them as mvossman pointed out. I myself am not one to talk to with regards to a straight THJ for Holmes swap because I fought that fight not too long ago around here.
First, salary is not a fit, they have to add a player so none of these THJ for Holmes trades are actually a final product. Second, many around here ignore THJ reverting to the mean this year with his 3%. Is that permanent? Does Sac believe they get the 2 years of great % or what we got this year? One thing about Heild, even when he was publicly upset with his team, he still put up good shooting. THJ signed a new contract and crapped the bed. Coincidence? Maybe, but he won’t get much time to turn this season around with the injury. Also, it’s not about what we think, it’s about what the FOs around the league think and with this particular trade what the Sac FO thinks.
The second trade of PJ for a late FRP also doesn’t think about the other team. Sure they were shopping PJ because Bridges has shown to be the better player at his position for them. Shopping him is to get max value out of a guy that is first and foremost young (!). Also he’s too good to play the role he’s playing. They’re shopping him to get a missing piece to their championship team. They need a C desperately on that team, it’s no secret.
I appreciate what you’ve brought up in your comments, some things I didn’t know and added some perspective. For me I’m not going to pretend to know player values in the NBA. I don’t think it’s as easy as X = X. Relationships, agents, GMs, coaches all of it comes into play. I don’t know how SAC valued Holmes pre-Sabonis or post-Sabonis. I don’t know how the Mavs value THJ. Although, my guess would be that the Mavs value THJ even higher than they do Holmes FWIW. So maybe the whole thing is moot as the Mavs may want compensation coming their way. Who really knows.
I made a lot of something simple. I think PJ is available and I think the Mavs should look into the cost. I don’t have as strong of an opinion about Holmes but also think he is available and the Mavs should look into the cost. If I’m remotely close - then I love the lineup flexibility that I showed post-trade.
PJ may be available for a FRP or he may not. The Hornets may not want to give him a 15M+ extension next year like DFS just got. Some think Brunson should have been traded to the Knicks at the TDL for a FRP. Brunson > PJ imo. So, again, I don’t know exact player values but what I proposed doesn’t seem preposterous or the replies would have been more harsh.
Bottom line, adding PJ and Holmes is a move that I would celebrate and think those moves alone make the Mavs a contender next year and beyond. While providing the flexibility and depth that I laid out.