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(02-11-2022, 11:49 PM)cow Wrote: Do some research and see how his contract is viewed throughout the league.  It was largely considered unmovable (cheaply) as evidenced by this trade (junk contract for junk contract) I don't think Robinson's contract is great either. I don't think THJ's contract is great either except it deescalates and he'll be fairly compensated in years three and four.  While I think he and Robinson are the most similar, I don't agree with the assessment of them being largely the same player either.  While shooting is really important, you need other tools in the toolbox.  Bertans has none.  Just because a player gets overpaid doesn't justify another similar player being overpaid.  Value of a contract is pretty simple in my eyes.  What does it takes to move it and what do you have to take back.  Is that return negative, neutral or positive.  Bertans is a clear negative in my eyes as you can't return value without including a positive asset.  I'm fine if you want to lump Robinson in that same bucket but I know which player I'd rather have.

Further, not all bad contracts are created equal.  Overpaying your own guy and the competency of your front office comes into play as does where your team is at in their building process towards a championship caliber team.  Beyond the location, it's what separates the great organizations from the likes of the Mavericks.

Just from the first page of Google results for worst NBA contracts.  And considering how often Bertans appears with the likes of Supermax contacts is impressive:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952...his-season
https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/2192936
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/10-wors...fts37c97px
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/ranking-th...nba-season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL8oUkJjl2A (bonus laughs Bertans contract being referred to as the Ian Mahinmi slot).

That's coming from people watching him play and not just looking up basketball reference stats.

Yeah and I disagree with them. 

Bertans is elite at something that fits very well with our best player which is he is a stretch big that can shoot it at a 40% clip. You are judging Bertans for how the league views him vs. how we should view him in our system. He is not going to be used like he was in Washington this year. His ability to stretch the floor is an important key in our offense that helps open the court for Luka. 

You are then bringing up Bertans can only shoot well duh, yes he is not being brought in to be a multi level scorer. Duncan Robinson is not a multi level scorer either.

For some reason you keep judging Bertans with how the league views him vs. how the Mavs view him which is odd because he fits our system and has the useful skillset to compliment our superstar. 

That is a very important factor that you continue to ignore. 

Bertans fits Luka's strengths and that means more to us than it does the rest of the league because Luka is on our team. 
If Bertans is a bust then so be it but you are casting a judgement on the guy before he has even suited up. 

SMH
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2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED] - by Kammrath - 07-21-2021, 10:12 AM
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