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(02-11-2022, 11:13 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: Robinson is practically the same player as Bertans but more of a wing type and is paid 2 million more. Your issue that Bertans is not tradeable is based on what?

Do some research and see how his contract is viewed throughout the league.  It was largely considered unmovable (cheaply) as evidenced by this trade (junk contract for junk contract) I don't think Robinson's contract is great either. I don't think THJ's contract is great either except it deescalates and he'll be fairly compensated in years three and four.  While I think he and Robinson are the most similar, I don't agree with the assessment of them being largely the same player either.  While shooting is really important, you need other tools in the toolbox.  Bertans has none.  Just because a player gets overpaid doesn't justify another similar player being overpaid.  Value of a contract is pretty simple in my eyes.  What does it takes to move it and what do you have to take back.  Is that return negative, neutral or positive.  Bertans is a clear negative in my eyes as you can't return value without including a positive asset.  I'm fine if you want to lump Robinson in that same bucket but I know which player I'd rather have.

Further, not all bad contracts are created equal.  Overpaying your own guy and the competency of your front office comes into play as does where your team is at in their building process towards a championship caliber team.  Beyond the location, it's what separates the great organizations from the likes of the Mavericks.

Just from the first page of Google results for worst NBA contracts.  And considering how often Bertans appears with the likes of Supermax contacts is impressive:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2952...his-season
https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/2192936
https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/10-wors...fts37c97px
https://fadeawayworld.net/nba/ranking-th...nba-season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL8oUkJjl2A (bonus laughs Bertans contract being referred to as the Ian Mahinmi slot).

That's coming from people watching him play and not just looking up basketball reference stats.
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