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(02-11-2022, 10:26 PM)cow Wrote: Disagree.  Heat could flip Robinson for an asset.  The only way the Wizards got off Bertans contract was to take on KP's horrible deal.  While I think Robinson's probably the closest comp being discussed here, he's still more versatile and an all around better player.  I'll give you that it helps he's on a much better team that can hide his weaknesses and the Mavs might be able to do that to an extent with Bertans, but Robinson's position is more likely to get a help defender whereas Bertans is more apt to be the help defender.

Let's examine your points here:

Your initial issue was that Bertans is overpaid and it sounds like you think Robinson is more deserving of his figure than Bertans. I am not going to include Bertans stats from this year because it appears the coaching change has impacted his play which is out of character for what he has been so lets compare both players coming into this year. I will also say that Robinson has also had a bad year shooting the ball this year and has not gone through a system change. 

Davis Bertans: 
Career 40% three point shooter 
16 Million per
29 years old 
15 ppg best year scoring average 
6-10 Stretch 4

Duncan Robinson:
Career 40% three point shooter
18 Million per that escalates to 20 Million
27 years old 
13 ppg best year scoring average 
6-7 Wing 

Robinson is practically the same player as Bertans but more of a wing type and is paid 2 million more. Your issue that Bertans is not tradeable is based on what?

Are you saying paying Duncan Robinson 20 million until the year 2025 which is the last year of his contract is better than paying Bertans 16 million in 2024 which happens to be a player option that you can get out of a year earlier?

I would venture to say that I would rather have Bertans who has fewer years and has shown more consistency over the same period as being a better shooter. I would also say that Bertans at his size is a more rare combination than Robinson. 6-10 stretch fours do not grow on trees. You can put him on the floor at the same time as Bullock and let Luka work. 

Both contracts can be considered hard to move but I would much rather have Bertans who is paid less, a better career shooter and has 1 less year on his contract that has a player option and is a stretch four which is rare in the NBA and fits our system.
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2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED] - by Kammrath - 07-21-2021, 10:12 AM
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