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(02-04-2022, 10:48 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: I agree with you that sending out DFS is tough in a Collins trade. But I just don't see Maxi getting that kind of value. Got to give something to get something right? Further, it's kind of moot, but in that proposed Collins trade I only sent out a single FRP, and a single second round pick. 

Also why aren't you interested in playing Collins next to a traditional center? He shone next to Capela, who is the antithesis to KP on offense. They walked to the ECF (albeit a much easier road than usual) and there was never an issue playing those two together. Nurkic isn't a good shooter, and I'm not really interested in making him a long-term addition however. The real play would be to get Valanciunas who can do both. 

Finally if you combine all those trades:

Mavs send out: Brunson+THJ+DFS+Maxi+KP+(M.Brown, Burke, S.Brown, Green)+ 2 FRP+ 1 second round pick

Mavs receive: Kemba+Burks+Collins+McCollum+Nurkic+2023 FRP

I think that's a net positive change. And also opens up a roster spot for the elusive Dragic folktale we've been hearing about but never actually seen exist.

Forgot to add, I actually like your final trade alot. It rocks the boat less, and still opens up our picks. I still think we need to get more value from Brunson than just our 2023 FRP I might add. We can trade with anyone with a 2023 pick and the rest of our picks get freed up the same.

Mavs2021 dream scenario of KP+Brunson for Lillard is an attractive one. I just think Portland wants a Harden like haul for him.

I missed the second vs first.  That makes it a more reasonable.

The reason I like Collins next to a stretch 5 is because he is at his most valuable as a P&R monster.  He can't do a lot of that playing next to a traditional 5 (he staggers with Capella and does a lot of his offensive damage when Capella is out).  He works well with Capella defensively because he can't protect the rim.  He is not a 5.  He is a lot like Powell defensively.  Putting him with with KP or Maxi allows him to dominate the paint on offense (or stretch the defense when appropriate) and have rim protecting coverage on defense.

I share your concern regarding Nurkic here long term.  I also agree that Brunson should net more than our first.  If we send KP + Bullock for CJ + Covington then we could bring Robinson back for Brunson.  He is younger, more healthy and a better fit than Nurkic.  As part of that trade we could also send Brown for Quickly for a backup point.
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