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2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED]
(02-04-2022, 10:37 AM)mvossman Wrote: I'm not sending DFS + Maxi + 2 firsts for Collins.  That is the heart of our defense plus two firsts.  I'm also not that interested in Collins next to a traditional center.  I think to truly unlock his powers we need to put him next to a stretch 5 like KP or Maxi (and you have traded both away).

If we take Collins out of the mix, you could still do something like KP + Powell + Bullock for CJ + Nurkic + Covington and trade Brunson for our pick and a backup point.  A starting lineup of Nurkic/Covington/DFS/Luka/CJ would still be really good and you have all of your picks to go in any direction you wanted.


I agree with you that sending out DFS is tough in a Collins trade. But I just don't see Maxi getting that kind of value. Got to give something to get something right? Further, it's kind of moot, but in that proposed Collins trade I only sent out a single FRP, and a single second round pick. 

Also why aren't you interested in playing Collins next to a traditional center? He shone next to Capela, who is the antithesis to KP on offense. They walked to the ECF (albeit a much easier road than usual) and there was never an issue playing those two together. Nurkic isn't a good shooter, and I'm not really interested in making him a long-term addition however. The real play would be to get Valanciunas who can do both. 

Finally if you combine all those trades:

Mavs send out: Brunson+THJ+DFS+Maxi+KP+(M.Brown, Burke, S.Brown, Green)+ 2 FRP+ 1 second round pick

Mavs receive: Kemba+Burks+Collins+McCollum+Nurkic+2023 FRP

I think that's a net positive change. And also opens up a roster spot for the elusive Dragic folktale we've been hearing about but never actually seen exist.

Forgot to add, I actually like your final trade alot. It rocks the boat less, and still opens up our picks. I still think we need to get more value from Brunson than just our 2023 FRP I might add. We can trade with anyone with a 2023 pick and the rest of our picks get freed up the same.

Mavs2021 dream scenario of KP+Brunson for Lillard is an attractive one. I just think Portland wants a Harden like haul for him.
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