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2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED]
(01-16-2022, 09:35 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Did you think I made a straw argument or statement? Let me know if I did.

I just think a chunk of folks do 1) undervalue JB and 2) underestimate Nico's good position here. Do you think those are false?

Straw man:  

"Brunson for just a Mav's 1st rounder?  No."  

"Mav's fans today:  'We need to chip in Brunson!!' "

No one said either of these things (or anything close).  It is a misrepresentation of what was said just like when I say "those who profess there is no risk here..." is also a misrepresentation.  BTW, I know you know this.  Just putting it out there as a teaching tool.  

You said "Amen".  I have no idea what you were 'Amen-ing'.  I can surmise from the next sentence that you were conceptually supporting the idea that Brunson has "value" and not supporting the idea that people want to trade Brunson for very little return.  So, this wasn't about you.

I do think there are two kinds of value that can be discussed.  There is on-court value and trade value.  They aren't necessarily the same thing and our impressions of what the collective board thinks are just opinions anyway.  None of this is provable.   You might say your "impression" is people here don't get how valuable Brunson is on-court.  I might say that I get the "impression" that people here are over-valuing him as a trade piece or are under-estimating the risk he leaves for nothing.  That's how conversations work and it is far different than saying "you people who want to give away Brunson for nothing...".  

That helps no one and I'm a bit sensitive to it right now because your belief that that technique was used to misrepresent your positions was a factor in your disagreement with a very good member of this community who is no longer here.
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2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED] - by Kammrath - 07-21-2021, 10:12 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Mapka - 10-31-2021, 07:21 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by cow - 10-30-2021, 08:29 PM
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Mikelo - 11-04-2021, 02:24 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Jym - 11-06-2021, 03:19 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Mikelo - 11-08-2021, 02:45 AM
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Mikelo - 11-08-2021, 04:25 AM
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Tyler - 11-12-2021, 02:24 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Tyler - 11-12-2021, 02:28 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by omahen - 11-13-2021, 01:42 AM
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by omahen - 11-14-2021, 07:29 PM
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by omahen - 11-26-2021, 01:50 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Arioch - 11-27-2021, 01:07 AM
RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Tyler - 11-26-2021, 06:46 PM
RE: ROSTER TALK: $10.87M TPE | pursuing MT/JC, trying to trade THJ? | NYK wants JB 'bad' - by DanSchwartzgan - 01-16-2022, 11:27 AM
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