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2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED]
(01-14-2022, 12:55 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Trying to put some rumors together...Boston trying to get under the tax and Indy moving MT here...I come up with the following:

Dallas:  Sends DP (or MK) plus DFS, Burke and WCS.  Receives MT, Schroeder and J. Hernangomez

Boston:  Sends Schroeder and J. Hernangomez (gets under the LT).  Receives Burke (takes the multi-year guy as penance).  

Indy:    Sends MT.  Receives Powell (or MK) plus DFS and WCS.

Everyone stays under the tax.  Schroeder and J-Hern are expiring (in fact, there isn't a path to bringing back Schroeder other than the T-MLE).  I suspect Dallas and Indy would both rather have Maxi (and I agree with the position that Maxi being here helps to retain Brunson).  

1.  I get the concern about the KP/MT fit.  It isn't knowable until it actually happens.  I looked at shot charts for both and found it interesting how much KP operates from the right side of the court and how much MT operates from the left.

2.  I get that DFS is an irreplaceable unique multi-position player.  But with KP/MT and Maxi on the squad, you are committing to two bigs pretty much the entire game.  At that point Dorian is just a three.  Still a good one (and we'll spend years trying to replace what he has become), but replacing him at the three-only isn't as impossible as replacing him as a 3/4.

MT         Maxi/Chriss
KP          Maxi/Chriss
RB          THJ/SBrown
Luka       J. Green/Frank
Brunson  Schroeder

I get this whole DFS discussion is emotional for some, but I have a request.  Can we please stop with the Straw Man arguments.  If you aren't familiar with the term it is when a post says something like "some people want to give Dorian away for free" or "some people think Dorian is a worthless dog".  The post then goes on to knock down the Straw Man.  It is lazy and a crutch.  It misrepresents the positions people are taking and doesn't advance the cumulative knowledge of the board in any way.  We'd all be better off if the post simply said I like Dorian better than MT and here is why (as many have done).

My contention has always been that you can't get enough value in a DFS trade to be worth it.  If we could actually essentially trade DFS for Myles Turner, then you have to pull that trigger.  But I don't think he will be enough.  At the minimum it would require Maxi, and/or a first.  If Maxi and DFS go out, you are looking at a gaping hole at the 4.  If we get to keep Maxi, would you do DFS + a first?

Personally, I would rather keep DFS and Maxi and find a third team to do KP for Turner/Lamb.  That would also save us 16 mil next year and cover most of the distance to stay under the tax.
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2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED] - by Kammrath - 07-21-2021, 10:12 AM
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by cow - 10-30-2021, 08:29 PM
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Tyler - 11-12-2021, 02:24 PM
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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL has $10.866M TPE - by Arioch - 11-27-2021, 01:07 AM
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