2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED]

[mvossman]

Raw on/off is really noisy but favors Turner. Overall I tend to agree with you. Boxscore numbers aren´t everything and they aren´t telling us anyting about things like defensive attention/gravity. Would argue that KP is drawing more attention from the defense.
Just talking about the maths that are used in most boxscore based metrics Turner is getting punished for a negative ast/tov ratio. An area where KP improved a lot. So far he is having the best passing season of his career.

But just like I mentioned. It leads to the question if Turner could produce similar or even better numbers on similar volume in a more featured role (without Sabonis next to him). And even more important for the Mavs. Also looking back at the last season under RC. Would the Mavs offense be better with a reduced role for KP. on/off numbers suggest as much.
KPs role in the offense remains one of the most interesting topics. Maybe the easiest solution is a better balance. KP still getting some opportunities but not ranking among the top 5 in post up volume. Personally I am starting to think of him as the 3rd option behind Luka and Brunson.

Or as discussed in this thread. Find a replacement with other strengths (and weaknesses). A better fitting piece. Maybe Turner´s superior defense and efficient shooting is exactly that if it means that Doncic and especially Brunson get more opportunities with better spacing.

I would be curious to see what Turner can do without Sabonis offensively (and rebounding) but I don't see that impacting his three point shooting.  KP is a significantly better three point shooter/spacer (despite his current season percentage) than Turner.  He takes twice the numbers of shots, and more difficult shots yet they have similar career averages.  I don't think he will ever provide the spacing that KP does.  I am curious if we would become a more willing P&R partner with Luka without someone else clogging up the middle.

I do agree that there would be value in trading out KP offensive demand (when his lack of ability to create and efficiency maybe don't warrant it) for someone that requires less offensive demand but provides elite defense, and maybe more importantly availability.

The thing is, there is no way Pacers want KP, so its tough to see a trade getting flushed out anyways.