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(06-21-2026, 08:35 PM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: While the contract of Isaac gives Orlando flexibility to shed salary or use as a potential trade chip, the immediacy of Black’s extension talks will be interesting following Jalen Suggs getting a five-year, $150 million extension, and with Black having comparable statistics to Suggs last season. NBA executives across the league believe Orlando will eventually have to choose between keeping Suggs or Black on the roster long-term due to their incoming salary cap situation.
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Yes they have some very interesting interesting roster decisions. It will take a smart GM to make it fit.
I really like Suggs. Wish I had confidence in his health and wish he could shoot it better. Winning player though.
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(06-21-2026, 10:23 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Fullcourtpass (@Fullcourtpass)
The Pelicans have had trade talks with the Hawks involving the No. 8 overall pick for Trey Murphy, per @NOLAJake
Murphy is good and would be awesome on the right team. I am sure Dallas has talked to them. Not sure if we have the right team for him currently.
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(06-21-2026, 11:19 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Sure, it might've started there, but as we see, that's not where it ended. I assume ATL wasn't the only team OKC offered Wiggins to. Are you suggesting everyone should've colluded to ensure OKC were punished for building a good team? I think that's ridiculous. It seems to me like ATL wanted Wiggins, not as a means of opportunistically extracting a toll, but just because they wanted the player. You have to assume they weren't the only ones bidding.
1 Presti gets it. Talent is value.
2 Other teams want talent. You don't HAVE TO pay them to take your talent, or give it away for free.
3 The key is to have a GM who gets it, and who is superior at negotiating and dangling talent until one or more teams come to get it and pay for the privilege.
4 I think Presti is the best in the business at understanding how to negotiate, and extracting full value (or more) from trades he wants to do. Every team in the NBA knew how badly he needed to get someone to take some of his 2nd and 3rd string guys with 10-15M contracts. Yet he knew how to get THEM to pay for the privilege of being the one to do the trade. Sheesh.
MY TAKEAWAY. The same could apply to DAL, if/when the Mavs decide to move players. Could. Should. But they need to have a negotiator that knows how to play the game of negotiating. Cuban wasn't it. Nico was even worse. Masai? TBD.
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(06-22-2026, 12:02 AM)F Gump Wrote: 1 Presti gets it. Talent is value.
2 Other teams want talent. You don't HAVE TO pay them to take your talent, or give it away for free.
3 The key is to have a GM who gets it, and who is superior at negotiating and dangling talent until one or more teams come to get it and pay for the privilege.
4 I think Presti is the best in the business at understanding how to negotiate, and extracting full value (or more) from trades he wants to do. Every team in the NBA knew how badly he needed to get someone to take some of his 2nd and 3rd string guys with 10-15M contracts. Yet he knew how to get THEM to pay for the privilege of being the one to do the trade. Sheesh.
MY TAKEAWAY. The same could apply to DAL, if/when the Mavs decide to move players. Could. Should. But they need to have a negotiator that knows how to play the game of negotiating. Cuban wasn't it. Nico was even worse. Masai? TBD.
My takeaway from this whole thing is that I now want no part of a 9 for 12 and 17 tradedown, because it would probably entail the Mavs having to give up a lot more future capital - in spite of Masai being one of Presti's almost-peers. Presti is the new Ainge, as far as I'm concerned.
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(06-21-2026, 11:39 PM)IChicagojk Wrote: Murphy is good and would be awesome on the right team. I am sure Dallas has talked to them. Not sure if we have the right team for him currently.
I just have trouble finding a lottery team that is a match. Maybe golden state
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Marc Stein: UPDATE: One league source, after my story was published, told @TheSteinLine that the Celtics emerged from the weekend “with a real shot” to win this race with a Jaylen Brown-centric offer … adding that Milwaukee has considered going ahead even without a third-team facilitator. With Antetokounmpo plagued by injuries and limited to just 36 games this past season, the Milwaukee Bucks appear ready to move on and initiate a rebuild. When asked if the trade will happen in the next 24 hours, Stein said: "If you force me to make a choice, yes. But I'm really taking my cues from every team I talk to, and every agent I talk to, and the answer comes back 'yes' every time".
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Marc Stein: "The Pistons have expressed interest in Kyrie Irving. Dallas is telling teams Kyrie Irving is not available. The Pistons have expressed interest in Trey Murphy, but so have a zillion other teams, and New Orleans' threshold for trading Trey Murphy away is really, really high. So, the Pistons have looked at other targets. Tyler Herro, if he ends up going to Milwaukee in a Giannis trade, we reported that Thursday night, we revealed that the Pistons have interest in Tyler Herro, but they are also looking at guys like Coby White and Isaiah Joe because they are presumably easier to acquire than Kyrie Irving or Trey Murphy. Kyrie Irving isn't even available right now."
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Yossi Gozlan: Thunder reduced total roster expenses from $549 million to $476 million just by moving off Aaron Wiggins' $9.2 million salary. Expect a couple more trades to reduce it to a more palatable number. The Oklahoma City Thunder will be ~$3.7M under the luxury tax, if they decline the team options for Lu Dort, Isaiah Hartenstein, and Kenrich Williams. Thunder will be ~$11.7M under the first apron and ~$24.7M under the second apron before re-signing Dort, Hartenstein, or Williams.
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(06-21-2026, 10:57 PM)mvossman Wrote: LOL. I misread that. There has been some crazy talk that Mavs might trade for one of OKC picks and part of the "cost" was taking on Joe into the TPE. Obviously OKC is going to get assets for Joe, not pay to get off him.
Getting Joe is a feature of most of the trade down deals I've seen discussed, not a cost.
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The Thunder are in active talks with multiple teams on trading Lu Dort’s $17.7 million expiring contract.
If OKC trades Dort with nothing in return, they instantly create a $17.7 million TPE to use in any deal over the next year.
Keep an eye on the Lakers as a team in pursuit.
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(06-22-2026, 06:23 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Marc Stein: "The Pistons have expressed interest in Kyrie Irving. Dallas is telling teams Kyrie Irving is not available. The Pistons have expressed interest in Trey Murphy, but so have a zillion other teams, and New Orleans' threshold for trading Trey Murphy away is really, really high. So, the Pistons have looked at other targets. Tyler Herro, if he ends up going to Milwaukee in a Giannis trade, we reported that Thursday night, we revealed that the Pistons have interest in Tyler Herro, but they are also looking at guys like Coby White and Isaiah Joe because they are presumably easier to acquire than Kyrie Irving or Trey Murphy. Kyrie Irving isn't even available right now."
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I assume this is “Kyrie Irving isn’t available for what people would offer right now.” Although if the team sees some success, wonder if Masai is less inclined to move him. I hope he’s looking at the bigger picture.
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(06-22-2026, 06:17 AM)HoosierDaddyKid Wrote: Marc Stein: UPDATE: One league source, after my story was published, told @TheSteinLine that the Celtics emerged from the weekend “with a real shot” to win this race with a Jaylen Brown-centric offer … adding that Milwaukee has considered going ahead even without a third-team facilitator. With Antetokounmpo plagued by injuries and limited to just 36 games this past season, the Milwaukee Bucks appear ready to move on and initiate a rebuild. When asked if the trade will happen in the next 24 hours, Stein said: "If you force me to make a choice, yes. But I'm really taking my cues from every team I talk to, and every agent I talk to, and the answer comes back 'yes' every time".
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Personally I don't understand why Boston would consider trading Brown for Giannis. Is there a relationship issue? Giannis might be a better player, but when you take into account age and (un)availability, I would be far more comfortable paying max money to Brown than to Giannis. Brown has three years left on his deal while Giannis would command a max extension at age 31, that would lock him far into his thirties and could quickly become a huge albatross deal if the lingering injuries he was dealing with in last two seasons continue.
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(06-22-2026, 08:00 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Evan Sidery (@esidery)
The Thunder are in active talks with multiple teams on trading Lu Dort’s $17.7 million expiring contract.
If OKC trades Dort with nothing in return, they instantly create a $17.7 million TPE to use in any deal over the next year.
Keep an eye on the Lakers as a team in pursuit.
Interesting what would be the trade if Lakers are involved. OKC doesn't need their #25 pick in this draft and Lakers are unlikely to trade FRP in 2031 or 2033 for Dort (he is not worth an unprotected pick, imho). A SRP and a pick swap from Lakers? I think OKC could get more than just one SRP for Dort.
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(06-22-2026, 07:05 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Getting Joe is a feature of most of the trade down deals I've seen discussed, not a cost.
Then I will just say good luck with that. If you are postulating a trade with OKC that looks remotely favorable you can be pretty sure its not going to happen.
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Heat Central: “All I’ll say to you Greeny, if the Milwaukee Bucks go with the Celtics offer, Jaylen Brown will be in Milwaukee” — @ShamsCharania says Jaylen Brown will be staying in MIL after a Giannis trade Giannis Antetokounmpo WILL BE traded before the draft and is focused on Boston or Miami, per @ShamsCharania “I want to make this clear, whichever deal occurs, it’s going to be a one for one deal. It’s going to consist of MIL and one of these two teams. There’s no 3rd and 4th teams.” The Miami Heat have ALREADY been trying to identify players to add after a Giannis trade, per @WindhorstESPN “I want to tell you that process is already underway. They have already identified players that they can chase if they get this deal done.” Per Shams: Giannis is expected to be traded before tomorrow’s draft. Likely headed to either Boston (which has made Jaylen Brown available) or Miami. Giannis is content with either of these two destinations (willing to sign extension)
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Brian Windhorst believes Jaylen Brown will be traded even if the Celtics miss on Giannis and is accepting that reality: “I believe if the Bucks choose the Miami Heat offer, Jaylen Brown will get traded somewhere else. They are going to move on here…. From what I understand, Jaylen Brown is accepting this and realizing it’s a chance to turn the page and may be getting his own team”
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(06-22-2026, 09:09 AM)mvossman Wrote: Then I will just say good luck with that. If you are postulating a trade with OKC that looks remotely favorable you can be pretty sure its not going to happen.
Right, because OKC wins every trade and mutually beneficial deals aren't possible? Comeo on.
Some think 12 + 17 isn't enough for 9. Add a player of Joe's quality and it evens up fairly nicely. We need bench shooting. OKC needs to move money and has a glut at the position.
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(06-22-2026, 09:34 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Right, because OKC wins every trade and mutually beneficial deals aren't possible? Comeo on.
Some think 12 + 17 isn't enough for 9. Add a player of Joe's quality and it evens up fairly nicely. We need bench shooting. OKC needs to move money and has a glut at the position.
Masai needs to hire you for his negotiations team.
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(06-22-2026, 09:34 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Right, because OKC wins every trade and mutually beneficial deals aren't possible? Comeo on.
Some think 12 + 17 isn't enough for 9. Add a player of Joe's quality and it evens up fairly nicely. We need bench shooting. OKC needs to move money and has a glut at the position.
My point is most of our postulated trades are a little homerish, and they are even less likely with a quality GM.
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The Free Press has confirmed with multiple people within the league not permitted to speak publicly that the Pistons have been involved in discussions regarding Tyler Herro. And though it remains to be seen if the deal will get across the finish line, three of their key role players – Isaiah Stewart, Duncan Robinson, and Ron Holland – are candidates to be moved in such a trade. As the adage goes, it takes money to make money. The Pistons' assets include all of their first-round picks, including No. 21 in Tuesday's draft, a trove of second-round picks, and several good players on contracts that can be easily moved.
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