Jason Kidd OUT! Who will be the Mavs' next HC?

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

I know the Lakers went hard after Hurley and he parlayed that into a big extension with Uconn. He is an absolute psycho but a great coach.

I don't think Nick Nurse fits this team right now. He's a win now coach that really grinds on his players, almost like Thibodeau. I'm expecting a lot of roster turnover for the Mavs.

[KillerLeft]

I know the Lakers went hard after Hurley and he parlayed that into a big extension with Uconn.  He is an absolute psycho but a great coach.

I don't think Nick Nurse fits this team right now.  He's a win now coach that really grinds on his players, almost like Thibodeau.  I'm expecting a lot of roster turnover for the Mavs.

I can see that POV about Nurse (and Thibodeau, too). It's potentially valid. 

Idk, I just see it differently, I guess. I want to put the architect(s) of the team and the architect of how the team will play in the same room as soon as possible, which to my mind elevates the chances of the CORRECT moves being made with the roster as well as the chances that all will be on the same page about how to implement the roster plan.

If the young coach identified is the NEXT Nurse or Spoelstra, great, and understanding that it was time for Kidd to go buys the new front office quite a bit of benefit of the doubt from me in that regard. What I DON'T want is a coach brought in to develop the team, knowing that another coach will have to come in later to WIN with the team. I hate that model and always have.

[OldMavsFan]

Kidd wasn't going to be around for the long term and it makes since to get a fresh start all the way around and just because of Cooper's comments, I see no issue with Cooper about the move.  Kyrie was the team leader last year, Kidd never really seemed to be the leader, though, just because the players play hard doesn't always have anything to do with the coach, it seems most of the Mavs play hard on their own.  I sure hope they hire someone who can draw up at least one and hopefully several inbound plays for late in the game and maybe even not always force the ball to the superstar for the last shot when double or tripled team.  I don't like coaches to yell and scream all the time, but Kidd whispering to the refs all game and adding no spark to the team, just seemed to wrong.

Now  that they have gotten rid of the brain trust, lets hope they will start to make decisions based on basketball skills, fits and be able to deal with the salary cap issues. This really opens up the moves that can be made and I expect a lot of movements, with several of the rotation moving and just because everyone says they need a PG in the draft, now they can also look into trading for one and adding a better fit at say the PF position and moving PJW.

How long for Flagg to be in his prime and how long will he be there?
How soon for Mavs to be back in the top 12 teams in the league and do they make moves to deal with OKC and the Spurs going forward or just go for moving up each year?  

I just hope they get a new coach who knows x's and o's and no how to teach them and brings in a staff  that brings energy and the ability to actually help the team to develop.  It is going to be a very interesting year to follow the Mavs and trying to out guess the up coming moves is just WAG at it's finest.

[RasheedsBigWhiteSpot]

No idea and don't care. I want what I want, and he's one of the best in the world. 

Open to other ideas, of course, but for me there are 4-5 guys who are clearly better than the rest and he's on that list.

Whoa, man! I'm not trying to take your dream from you. I just thought there was a rift. Maybe. Maybe not.

[SwisherPrice]

Knew this was going to happen...it was only a matter of when and not if. The writing was on the wall once Kidd didn't get his way in the front office like he wanted. But now Kidd gets to leave on his terms and probably has his golden parachute ready to coach another team. Unfortunately, the Kidd and Ujiri fights probably would have made for great stories but oh well 

[KillerLeft]

I wonder if part of Ujiri’s non-committal answer about Kidd at the press conference was about him knowing that Kidd wanted the GM job (not Ujiri’s job, but the one that went to Schmidt) and that he wasn’t going to give it to him.

[Jmaciscool]

Maybe Kidd can go be the GM in Philly, fire Nurse to hire his guy Sweeney as HC and then Mavs can hire Nurse.

Kidd and Sweeney get the roles they've been trying to get for a while, Spurs lose Sweeney, and Mavs get a good coach. Everyone wins!

[KillerLeft]

"All due respect to the Magic, Bulls and Blazers, but getting to coach Cooper Flagg for the next decade puts the Mavs at the top of the list for any former head coach looking for work tonight - and more than a couple of current ones gainfully employed as we speak."

David Aldridge
https://x.com/davidaldridgedc/status/205...46727?s=20

[Scott41theMavs]

Maybe Kidd can go be the GM in Philly, fire Nurse to hire his guy Sweeney as HC and then Mavs can hire Nurse.

Kidd and Sweeney get the roles they've been trying to get for a while, Spurs lose Sweeney, and Mavs get a good coach. Everyone wins!

My favorite idea on the Discord was Mak suggesting Masai get Sydney Sweeney to be our coach. That would sure be motivating for the guys.

[Chicagojk]

Cringe. They will study this press conference for years for the definition of pr disaster. Kidd knew the gravity of the situation. Thus how uncomfortable he looked. Nico had no idea.

https://x.com/slothanova/status/20568769...74071?s=61

[RasheedsBigWhiteSpot]

My favorite idea on the Discord was Mak suggesting Masai get Sydney Sweeney to be our coach. That would sure be motivating for the guys.

Not to hijack the thread, but I haven't figured out her appeal. I think she falls in the Eva Longoria category of "Hot because she's famous", but if she was "regular Jane" walking into a bar, no one would notice. 

Okay, I return you to flaming Jason kidd.

[Smitty]

@ScoopB @Fullcourtpass
EXCLUSIVE: Jason Kidd didn't just part ways with the Mavs—a league source tells me simply:

“He wanted out.”

So what’s next? Think a J-Kidd & Giannis reunion in Minnesota?

“Not out of the question,” says a trusted league fixture.

Plus, Anthony Edwards is privately pushing for a healthy Kyrie Irving to join him with the T-Wolves, while Houston monitors closely.
Masai Ujiri has a massive puzzle to solve in Dallas.

[F Gump]

Kidd is never going to be a tactician but he is good empowering players and helping them expand their game and grow confident.  That is not nothing.  He had two deep playoffs runs here.  

I think the part about Kidd's ability to get players to buy in, trust the team/process, play hard, and develop is 100% on target. But around here I think those are regarded as fairly minor qualities compared to various aspects of game management. 

And I think when it comes to team building these days, the order of importance is the other way around. 

I think those off court relationships, and ability to get players to want to play here and learn to grow, may be the most vital skills needed when trying to build a team from the ashes. They will be missed. He did build TEAMS and PLAYERS.

The game nitpicks? Pffft.  The on-court details can be delegated so they shouldn't be an issue. To his credit, he navigated the team through some incredibly choppy front office mistakes, and still getting the team to win big in years that weren't screwed up by upper-level management blunders. 

But there is one part that I don't like about Kidd at all. It's the way he jockeyed to try to get the GM job (or some other better job). I think he's a high quality COACH, but his blazing and unending desire to sit in the big chair (rather than keep his focus on his job) is something I don't think will be missed. Did his ambition keep splitting his loyalties between THIS job, and the next step upward he could imagine? Was his allegiance to the welfare of the team (indeed, he should have advised Nico to step away from the Luka trade, but I wonder if Kidd saw it as career suicide for Nico that would then open up the GM for him to grab)? If you aren't sure, you don't want to have to deal with that.

[ThisIStheYear]

Sean Sweeney coming back from San Antonio is the obvious move here. Another smart decision from the Mavs. Hopefully they’ve got one more left for the draft.

[KillerLeft]

Sean Sweeney coming back from San Antonio is the obvious move here. Another smart decision from the Mavs. Hopefully they’ve got one more left for the draft.

Sweeney wouldn't be my favorite, but I could muster up some excitement over that choice, for sure.

[Scott41theMavs]

I think the part about Kidd's ability to get players to buy in, trust the team/process, play hard, and develop is 100% on target. But around here I think those are regarded as fairly minor qualities compared to various aspects of game management. 

And I think when it comes to team building these days, the order of importance is the other way around. 

I think those off court relationships, and ability to get players to want to play here and learn to grow, may be the most vital skills needed when trying to build a team from the ashes. They will be missed. He did build TEAMS and PLAYERS.

The game nitpicks? Pffft.  The on-court details can be delegated so they shouldn't be an issue. To his credit, he navigated the team through some incredibly choppy front office mistakes, and still getting the team to win big in years that weren't screwed up by upper-level management blunders. 

But there is one part that I don't like about Kidd at all. It's the way he jockeyed to try to get the GM job (or some other better job). I think he's a high quality COACH, but his blazing and unending desire to sit in the big chair (rather than keep his focus on his job) is something I don't think will be missed. Did his ambition keep splitting his loyalties between THIS job, and the next step upward he could imagine? Was his allegiance to the welfare of the team (indeed, he should have advised Nico to step away from the Luka trade, but I wonder if Kidd saw it as career suicide for Nico that would then open up the GM for him to grab)? If you aren't sure, you don't want to have to deal with that.

If Kidd gets a job with front office input this summer, I will enjoy watching that dumpster fire... from a distance.

[KillerLeft]

DLLS Mavs pointing out that Ujiri's history is heavily in favor of "X's and O's" style coaching.

AMAZE! Please and thank you! I hope that holds up here.

[DanSchwartzgan]

@ScoopB @Fullcourtpass
EXCLUSIVE: Jason Kidd didn't just part ways with the Mavs—a league source tells me simply:

“He wanted out.”

So what’s next? Think a J-Kidd & Giannis reunion in Minnesota?

“Not out of the question,” says a trusted league fixture.

Plus, Anthony Edwards is privately pushing for a healthy Kyrie Irving to join him with the T-Wolves, while Houston monitors closely.
Masai Ujiri has a massive puzzle to solve in Dallas.

Who is ScoopB?

[Smitty]

Who is ScoopB?

Not sure. Nearly 40k followers. Several of them NBA reporters…

[KillerLeft]

Tiago Splitter getting a lot of buzz for this...how would we feel about him?