MAVS NEWS:

[Tyler]

Perot is involved somehow? That doesn't seem right.

Just going by what BoredAssistant posted. I assume he heard it on the radio.

This also can't be coincidence. The DMN has an article posted just this morning quoting Ross Perot Jr. on how the Mavs and Stars need to work together on the new arena.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business/2026...-sheridan/

[windjc]

The Perot’s know as much about basketball as the current ownership. They were the owners before Cuban when the team was league worst.

[Tyler]

If Perot Jr. is in fact a potential investor, here is some background:
"Founder and Chairman of Hillwood Communities, Ross Perot Jr. is also Chairman of the Perot Group, which manages family interests that include real estate, oil and gas, and financial investments."state, oil and gas, and financial investments.  Founder and Chairman of Hillwood Communities, Ross Perot, Jr. is also Chairman of The Perot Group, which manages family interests that include real estate, oil and gas, and financial investments. 

The most important background is that he owned the Mavs before Cuban and was responsible for building the AAC and Victory Park. The team wants a new arena and he knows how to get things done. He'd be a natural parter for any new ownership group.

Then again, the other part of the history is that Perot later sued Cuban accusing him of financial misconduct with how he managed the Mavs, and Cuban sued him back for breach of contract (I believe Cuban won both cases). So it would be really awkward from that perspective.

[BoredAssistant]

The most important background is that he owned the Mavs before Cuban and was responsible for building the AAC and Victory Park. The team wants a new arena and he knows how to get things done. He'd be a natural parter for any new ownership group.

Thanks for the reminder. Does anyone remember maybe a couple of years ago we were talking about development on the north side and supporting a team? We called this. Look at what has happened since.

[BoredAssistant]

I assume he heard it on the radio.

Yes I heard about Perot Jr. and Hillwood Real Estate on the radio but possibly misheard. I've been wrong before so everyone please verify.

[windjc]

Any new ownership group that includes Cuban is going to let Cuban be defacto GM. You guys think you were F****** by Dumont? Holy s*** you haven’t seen anything yet.

There is no way Cuban joins any takeover plan that doesn’t explicitly give him player control.

[windjc]

I am praying that the Adelsons get offended that Cuban wants to buy back. They kick him further to the curb and decide to double down on hiring the most competent GM possible. That would be awesome!

[myconsumerclub]

OMG we can only dream it happens and that Cuban is told to go sit in a corner and suck his thumb.

[Dundalis]

Any new ownership group that includes Cuban is going to let Cuban be defacto GM. You guys think you were F****** by Dumont? Holy s*** you haven’t seen anything yet.

There is no way Cuban joins any takeover plan that doesn’t explicitly give him player control.

If we luck into a top 4 pick in this draft, and even have the slightest chance that Luka may want to return in a few years, I actually don't care if that happens tbh.

[Dundalis]

The Adelson hate on here reeks of TDS.

If you want Cuban more active you are a moron. Cuban is the reason for every complaint you have about the Mavs.

He is a dodo bird.

The hate of the Adelson's goes WAAY beyond just their stewardship of the Mavs. And rightfully so.

[Winter]

The Dumont's response to Stein's post of the sale makes me think they've been open to the process, possibly in active negotiations, but aren't far enough along to say anything openly except the stated party line (“the family remains excited about the future of the franchise and the Cooper Flagg era.”) which is not a denial.

I also don't think Cuban would want a role that was precisely what he had two years ago. He might very well get controlling interest in the team, but that doesn't mean we just time-travel back a few years. There was a lot to be learned from the hiring and firing of Nico, the feelings of the Dallas fan-base, and a host of things he did poorly while in control. He may have a streak of narcissim, but he's not stupid. I feel confident he'll make sure there's an appropriate GM structure to the organization (should all this come to fruition).

The Mavericks entire front office and video-media department was hollowed out when the Adelson's aquired controlling interest. Much of Nico's control was a product of no one minding the store. I think the response on this board is partly a response to this. Mine is anyway. I just don't think these owners care anything about team ownership or the fans. It's just the money.

[DanSchwartzgan]

 
I also don't think Cuban would want a role that was precisely what he had two years ago. He might very well get controlling interest in the team, but that doesn't mean we just time-travel back a few years. There was a lot to be learned from the hiring and firing of Nico, the feelings of the Dallas fan-base, and a host of things he did poorly while in control. He may have a streak of narcissim, but he's not stupid. I feel confident he'll make sure there's an appropriate GM structure to the organization (should all this come to fruition).
 

It will be interesting to see if the ownership group is comprised of locals who love the team of just a bunch of real estate bro's.  This has always been a passion project for Cuban and as time went by it was one he wasn't able to afford to the same level as the big boys.  Cashing out while maintaining control probably seemed like an ideal situation...except for the actual "control" part.

Will he put cash back into the deal?  Or, try to control the team as Governor while maintaining his minority interest.

If you are a GM candidate, how anxious are you to enter this circus while still unresolved?  If you are a good experienced GM, do you want to work for Cuban given his history of controlling everything?  What about the current co-GM's?  What have conversations been like between them and Cuban as they tried to report up to Dumond while at the same time dealing with the smartest man in the room?  None of this feels like a path to an Elite GM.

[Winter]

Yep, all that and more. I don't disagree.

Plus, you have to think Cuban is concerned about his legacy and maybe ashamed of what happened. And you bring up a good point about letting all this linger in the face of hiring a new GM. On the other hand, the new GM may not be a pressing concern with Riccardi and Finley steering the boat temporarily.

I wonder if leaking this will force the pace of negotiations to be a little faster.

[KillerLeft]

If you are a GM candidate, how anxious are you to enter this circus while still unresolved?  If you are a good experienced GM, do you want to work for Cuban given his history of controlling everything?  What about the current co-GM's?  What have conversations been like between them and Cuban as they tried to report up to Dumond while at the same time dealing with the smartest man in the room?  None of this feels like a path to an Elite GM.

The first thought I had when I read Smitty's post with the news was that there's probably some disagreement in "the circle" about which way to go with the new GM. 

No matter what this is, real or not, it's another circus I don't think the franchise needs or can handle right now.

[Winter]

The first thought I had when I read Smitty's post with the news was that there's probably some disagreement in "the circle" about which way to go with the new GM. 

No matter what this is, real or not, it's another circus I don't think the franchise needs or can handle right now.

If it wasn't real, the parties would have denied it. No?

And honestly, I cannot imagine Cuban instigates this idea first. I just think the Dumonts must have been banking on legalized gambling. If Gov. Abbott and Dan Patrick can't be swayed to pursue legalized gambling, the casino idea is dead.

Not much has come out on any of this, but I'm having hard time imagining any other scenario.

[KillerLeft]

If it wasn't real, the parties would have denied it. No?

And honestly, I cannot imagine Cuban instigates this idea first. I just think the Dumonts must have been banking on legalized gambling. If Gov. Abbott and Dan Patrick can't be swayed to pursue legalized gambling, the casino idea is dead.

Not much has come out on any of this, but I'm having hard time imagining any other scenario.

I see the gambling angle, but I've never bought it as a "given" to rationalize the motives of the Adelsons moving operations here. Never once has it been mentioned by either them or Cuban - they've always been careful to couch things in terms of "real estate," and while I think them being behind a push to legalize gambling here and find themselves on the ground floor of a gold rush could explain things, I have tried to keep an open mind about other possible motivations, because from my seat, that would've been a huge risk for them. 

I don't want to get political, but for quite a few reasons I kind of feel that Texas will be the very last state in this country to legalize gambling, and again, without going too in depth and taking this forum off topic, I think that's probably for the best. This take has ZERO to do with morality and everything to do with some of my business interests, and I can tell you that when states legalize gambling they frequently shoot themselves in the foot doing so. Almost every economic problem Louisiana has, for example, is due to legalized gambling, but the biggest area of negative impact has been their education system, which is abysmal, and with those two guys out there in Texas on their own personal jihad to privatize education in Texas, let's just say that agenda doesn't mix with the one we're assuming the Adelsons are pushing. Tl;dr: I think it's going to be a WHILE before we see legal gambling in Texas, so I have a difficult time believing a family as rich and plugged in as the Adelsons actually thought it would be so easy. If that was really the play, I think it might have been doomed all along. For that reason, I kind of always bought the idea that they really were just interested in developing an area of Dallas built around the Mavs, as people have promised/tried before and failed to do.

[KillerLeft]

If this was initiated by the Adelsons wanting to sell and not by the new group wanting to buy, which I take to be the meaning of several posts, where did the leak come from, and what is the logic behind leaking it?

I can't quite figure out why I feel this way, but I instantly assumed the opposite.

[windjc]

Of course this just creates more a circus and it’s 100% Cuban behind it. I think it’s amusing that TDS runs rampant on this forum and Cubans need for attention is Trumps-lite.

[windjc]

If this was initiated by the Adelsons wanting to sell and not by the new group wanting to buy, which I take to be the meaning of several posts, where did the leak come from, and what is the logic behind leaking it?

I can't quite figure out why I feel this way, but I instantly assumed the opposite.

Your instincts are correct. People here just blind hate the owners and apologize for Cuban. It’s not logical or anything. Of course this didn’t come from the Adelsons.

[michaeltex]

I don't know how it shakes out, but I feel like Cuban really does love this team and it pains him to see it in such shambles. Yes he hired Nico, so he has to carry at least part of the responsibility for the bad decisions of the last year or so. But I also think that he would not have allowed the gutting and dismissive behavior toward the medical and support staff, which I think has contributed to the current situation. So, like with most things, it's a mixed bag. We all wanted Cuban to sit down and shut up sometimes, but you didn't doubt his love of the team.