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[BigDirk41]

I would be real disappointed if they play for a playin spot.  I do t have an issue bringing back a Kyrie at some point, if he is ready and cleared. Give him some games but watch his load.  Tricky balance.

I would be surprised if they don't make the play in if Kyrie comes back anytime soon. They play so hard and they keep winning games. I've been a little disappointed in the tank job lately. Kyrie would destroy any chance of the tank. I'd rather they shut Kyrie down and find a way to lose more games after the all star break.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Kyrie will be in a minutes restriction until the end of the season and he will not play B2B...

[BigDirk41]

Kyrie will be in a minutes restriction until the end of the season and he will not play B2B...

Mavs are already winning regularly now without Kyrie. I'm started to think the tank might be done. They will be a play in team at the current rate.

[DallasMaverick]

Mavs are already winning regularly now without Kyrie. I'm started to think the tank might be done. They will be a play in team at the current rate.

Just one game out from the last play-in spot.

[Mavs03]

Questions for the board:

1) Has Max Christie etched his way as our future SG for the Mavs? We have a trio of Flagg, Christie and Lively (fingers crossed) - 22 years and younger. PG and PF are the next things we should be pursuing. I'm putting Flagg as a SF although he's flexible enough to be our PF. Hopefully, we can get our PG in the 2026 draft.

2) If you theoretically trade Marshall, Gafford and Klay, should that net you at least 2 1st round picks?

3) In regards to AD, at this point, I'll take expiring contracts, young prospect and 1st round pick for him. AD should be back in 1 month (hopefully). I would think any team in the East has a legit chance to win the conference. Heck, even the Hornets are making noise in the East.

[RGP1981]

These guys are not scared of Flagg. They just want to give Culture Cuban more encouragement to botch tanking again by dropping above Memphis and Milwaukee. What they are really scared of his Flagg AND a top 4 pick AND an additional 1st round pick. They want Flagg to remain alone.

I think you're exactly right, lol... and yet people will still fall for this stuff hook, line and sinker. It's like history hasn't taught them to ask the right question. Asking themselves the right question ends up setting up the correct goal. The question shouldn't be, "how soon can we try to win a title with Coop?". The question should be, "how do we put together a lasting dynasty for the length of Coop's whole prime (let's say: 22 years to 34 years or so) that just goes on winning and winning... and then wins some more?". Their plan should include getting 2 young stars who will form the core, and also how they will continue to get low-cost replacements for the roster through the draft. Sam Presti just gave everyone a master-class in how to do it after SGA fortunately landed in OKC's lap.

Oh and another +1 for the Culture Cuban term. That's funny.

[Smitty]

The Mavs are tied with DET and POR for longest active win streak, four. They've won 5 of their last 6 games, with a 14.6 pt average margin of victory. They are a game and a half behind the Clippers, for the 10th and final play-in spot. They have dropped to the #9 slot in the lottery. Also, a game and a half from falling to the 12th slot.

There are 13 days until the trade deadline. The Mavs have 6 more games:

Vs Lakers
@ Bucks
Vs Timberwolves
Vs Hornets
@ Rockets
Vs Celtics

They will likely be underdogs in all but the Hornets game at home. Currently 19-26, seven games under .500, what would it take these next 6 games for the front office to tell themselves they have 'a chance' this season, with a healthy Kyrie and Davis return after the All-Star break. Does Dumont really want to see those two with Flagg, and willing to write any check necessary to do so..? How will the FO get these players to go along with this "tank" plan, especially if the owner wants the Stars out there? What is the direction of this franchise???

[Smitty]

Questions for the board:

1) Has Max Christie etched his way as our future SG for the Mavs?  We have a trio of Flagg, Christie and Lively (fingers crossed) - 22 years and younger. Hopefully, we can get our PG in the 2026 draft.

2) If you theoretically trade Marshall, Gafford and Klay, should that net you at least 2 1st round picks?

3) In regards to AD, at this point, I'll take expiring contracts, young prospect and 1st round pick for him. 

1) I'll ask, will Max ever be a "Star"? The difference between role player and star has a lot to do with consistency. Can you bring it every night? I don't know what his ceiling is, but since he's been a Mav, he's proven that his floor is excellent role player and starter level SG. The extension talks this summer will be very interesting. I hope he's here a long time. He gets better every day, week, month, year.

2) Theoretically, sure. How premium are the picks though?

3) I think 99% of Mavs fans would. Seems like that demand has not been met or the Mavs front office has an even higher one.

[Winter]

Max will make Flagg's opportunities better by his mere prescence on the perimeter. He's important to have on the team at this point.... and perhaps going forward for several more years.

Max seems to have opened up the game a little for Naji as well. The team operates better on offense when the defense has to be super-aware of Max out on the perimeter. Teams can't afford to clog the middle.

[Chicagojk]

I get it and it makes sense.   If true though, it probably also makes sense for a quiet trade deadline.  Doesn't make sense to say you don't want to hire an inexperienced GM again, but expect direction from the group you currently have.  

https://x.com/MavsFilmRoom/status/2014732662276014473

[KillerLeft]

I get it and it makes sense.   If true though, it probably also makes sense for a quiet trade deadline.  Doesn't make sense to say you don't want to hire an inexperienced GM again, but expect direction from the group you currently have.  

https://x.com/MavsFilmRoom/status/2014732662276014473

Well, if legit, this seems to rule out Kidd, at least. All in all, not terrible news.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Probably no major trade then.

Maybe Just Gafford or Klay.

[Chicagojk]

The Adelson/Dumont family has more money then they know what to do with.    Although this is an ownership group who don't go to games.  I don't believe Miriam has gone to a game, and Dumont has gone to like 3.   Miriam big play is the gambling thing.    Are they really going to want to pay 100's? (10?) millions of dollars in luxury tax?  Especially for a team that is not a contender.    I mean if you don't even go to the games, isn't that like just throwing money away?

[KillerLeft]

The Adelson/Dumont family has more money then they know what to do with.    Although this is an ownership group who don't go to games.  I don't believe Miriam has gone to a game, and Dumont has gone to like 3.   Miriam big play is the gambling thing.    Are they really going to want to pay 100's? (10?) millions of dollars in luxury tax?  Especially for a team that is not a contender.    I mean if you don't even go to the games, isn't that like just throwing money away?

In addition to this logic, there's lots out there about how much they tried to cut costs when they first bought the team. It kind of seemed like they were surprised by how much it costs to run an NBA team, and by how easy it is to lose money doing so. That's the read I got, anyway. 

The wild card is the fan reaction from the Luka trade, and how they've resolved to handle that, imo. Things got pretty ugly before Harrison was fired...do they respond to that by going above and beyond, financially, even if it's only temporary, or will their response be more along the lines of "f__ it - this team was supposed to be good, but isn't, and the fans are ungrateful, anyway." Tough to predict, imo. Hopefully, we'll know more about how we can expect this team will be managed in the future after the trade deadline. I feel like I haven't been able to perceive a clear direction since that trade, personally.

[DallasMaverick]

In addition to this logic, there's lots out there about how much they tried to cut costs when they first bought the team. It kind of seemed like they were surprised by how much it costs to run an NBA team, and by how easy it is to lose money doing so. That's the read I got, anyway. 

The wild card is the fan reaction from the Luka trade, and how they've resolved to handle that, imo. Things got pretty ugly before Harrison was fired...do they respond to that by going above and beyond, financially, even if it's only temporary, or will their response be more along the lines of "f__ it - this team was supposed to be good, but isn't, and the fans are ungrateful, anyway." Tough to predict, imo. Hopefully, we'll know more about how we can expect this team will be managed in the future after the trade deadline. I feel like I haven't been able to perceive a clear direction since that trade, personally.

I think the default for most fans is to project their own attitudes about money onto the team’s owners. So usually, we’re looking for any evidence that validates the idea that the owner is “cheap”.

[mvossman]

I think the default for most fans is to project their own attitudes about money onto the team’s owners. So usually, we’re looking for any evidence that validates the idea that the owner is “cheap”.

Is an owner skimping on playoff bonuses as one of his very first acts projecting?

The thing is, it does not make sense for a franchise to pay a massive repeater tax for a rebuilding team.  The question is not whether he is cheap, its whether is completely reckless with his money or not.  So far, there has been no evidence that he intends to be reckless.

[DallasMaverick]

Is an owner skimping on playoff bonuses as one of his very first acts projecting?

The thing is, it does not make sense for a franchise to pay a massive repeater tax for a rebuilding team.  The question is not whether he is cheap, its whether is completely reckless with his money or not.  So far, there has been no evidence that he intends to be reckless.

I would assume that, like most businessmen, they are looking for good value, however they perceive it. Sometimes that takes the form of a “loss leader” that achieves profitability in an adjacent space.

Sometimes it takes the form of a big capital gain, that dwarfs whatever operating losses a company sustains in the short or medium term.

So perhaps a better question is: “how do the new owners perceive value?”

[Chicagojk]

Does Max's jump this year make you less likely to make a move for another shooting guard at the deadline.   For example Mathurin or White?  Both are free agents, but I feel like Max has earned a starting spot.  White an Mathurin may be better but they probably want a big extension.   Max may want a big extension in a year.

[mvossman]

I would assume that, like most businessmen, they are looking for good value, however they perceive it. Sometimes that takes the form of a “loss leader” that achieves profitability in an adjacent space.

Sometimes it takes the form of a big capital gain, that dwarfs whatever operating losses a company sustains in the short or medium term.

So perhaps a better question is: “how do the new owners perceive value?”

If he is thinking like a businessman, then there is almost no chance he pays a massive repeater tax as it makes no business sense.  Cuban ran the team like a fan until he got his ring, and then he ran it like a businessman and the money dried up.

[mvossman]

Does Max's jump this year make you less likely to make a move for another shooting guard at the deadline.   For example Mathurin or White?  Both are free agents, but I feel like Max has earned a starting spot.  White an Mathurin may be better but they probably want a big extension.   Max may want a big extension in a year.

I'm not really high on either guy for the likely contract and asset cost, but Mathurin could play the 3, and Coby is more of a 6th man type.