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AD has a big number but they'll also want to attach a bad contract or two. That could limit the return but this team needs to clear the books and get their 27 pick back from CHA, somehow
Klay 2 yrs $34M
Martin 3 yrs $30M
Hardy 3yrs $18M
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11-12-2025, 10:02 AM
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A young guard and a pick or two would be nice. That Chicago trade looks like the best idea I've seen so far even though Coby White isn't a traditional point guard. He'd still help.
I wish there was a way to trade AD to Golden State (without Butler salary matching). He fits their win now window with Steph and they need a big man. Brandin Podziemski is a guy I have interest in. There are already rumors from GS that he wants a bigger role and isn't fitting in to the team. I would also consider moving Gafford or Lively in a deal for Podziemski.
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11-12-2025, 11:25 AM
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AD + Klay + Martin --> DET
Ivey + Holland + Stewart + Harris --> DAL
I also like the CHA deal if DAL can get expiring Sexton plus 3 FRPs including their '27
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(11-12-2025, 09:04 AM)Smitty Wrote: My favorite fantasy trade I've seen so far. Is Davis to Chicago (Coby White +2 FRPs + filler). It seems realistic, as much as one can be when talking fantasy trades. I think there's a near zero percent chance that Anthony Davis is on this roster to start next season, 2026-2027.
I don't think his value is 4-5 FRP's like Shams suggested a few months ago, unless it's nothing but unwanted contracts coming back, but I do think he is a positive asset, unlike some here. I think he could net you a really good player, a young guy you like, and a FRP or two. The Mavs may have to take on some salary for trade matching, but the preference being expirings.
If Lindsey is the hire, I think his first order of business is getting maximum value for Davis, resetting this thing for the FO and fans, and really hyping up Cooper Flagg. Speaking of, is he the least hyped #1 pick ever? I'm ready for this page to be turned...
I think this is my favorite tree to bark up into, also. Davis has ties to Chicago, and has actually talked about wanting to end his career there, I believe. Coby White moves the needle here pretty significantly, and Chicago is one of the last "dumb" teams out there.
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(11-12-2025, 11:11 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Any of these interest you?
https://www.theringer.com/2025/11/12/nba...-mavericks
I could probably be talked into any of them.
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11-12-2025, 11:56 AM
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What I find so over the top hilarious right about now is that if the Mavs had just admitted they needed to trade one of the bigs (would've been so easy to move Gafford productively) this summer for an impactful ball-handler, we/they might not even be in this situation.
Like...it isn't as bad as it has looked. They just can't play offense, even passably. But, that's not because the pieces suck, it's because they don't fit together in any sort of logical way.
But from here, I am confronted more and more with the reality that AD, Thompson and (I think) Kyrie all need to go.
I might even include the next age bracket down in the exodus (PJW, Gafford, Marshall, etc). I wouldn't be looking to move those guys with any urgency, really, but I'd damn sure be listening to offers.
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(11-12-2025, 11:51 AM)mvossman Wrote: I could probably be talked into any of them.
Me too. Only condition is that their 2026 1st needs to be included.
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11-12-2025, 12:06 PM
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(11-12-2025, 11:56 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: What I find so over the top hilarious right about now is that if the Mavs had just admitted they needed to trade one of the bigs (would've been so easy to move Gafford productively) this summer for an impactful ball-handler, we/they might not even be in this situation.
Like...it isn't as bad as it has looked. They just can't play offense, even passably. But, that's not because the pieces suck, it's because they don't fit together in any sort of logical way.
But from here, I am confronted more and more with the reality that AD, Thompson and (I think) Kyrie all need to go.
I might even include the next age bracket down in the exodus (PJW, Gafford, Marshall, etc). I wouldn't be looking to move those guys with any urgency, really, but I'd damn sure be listening to offers.
It makes a lot more sense to only cash in AD and Klay, in case Flagg is that dude. We were in the NBA finals with Luka, Kyrie, Jones, Washington, Lively.
Now don´t get me wrong Lavine, Christie, Russell and DeRozan are nowhere near Luka, but in combination with an improving Flagg (and two lottery picks) that should be a 45 win team. Why waste away in 20 win seasons, when you don´t own your pick anyway and your fanbase wants to burn down the arena.
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(11-12-2025, 11:56 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: What I find so over the top hilarious right about now is that if the Mavs had just admitted they needed to trade one of the bigs (would've been so easy to move Gafford productively) this summer for an impactful ball-handler, we/they might not even be in this situation.
Like...it isn't as bad as it has looked. They just can't play offense, even passably. But, that's not because the pieces suck, it's because they don't fit together in any sort of logical way.
But from here, I am confronted more and more with the reality that AD, Thompson and (I think) Kyrie all need to go.
I might even include the next age bracket down in the exodus (PJW, Gafford, Marshall, etc). I wouldn't be looking to move those guys with any urgency, really, but I'd damn sure be listening to offers.
Kind of ironic that Nico's best skill was building a finals team around the one guy he didn't want to build around, and then when he replaced that one guy with the one guy he DID want to build around he...didn't do anything to build around him.
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Is there any interest to look at Memphis and Ja?
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(11-12-2025, 12:06 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: It makes a lot more sense to only cash in AD and Klay, in case Flagg is that dude. We were in the NBA finals with Luka, Kyrie, Jones, Washington, Lively.
Now don´t get me wrong Lavine, Christie, Russell and DeRozan are nowhere near Luka, but in combination with an improving Flagg (and two lottery picks) that should be a 45 win team. Why waste away in 20 win seasons, when you don´t own your pick anyway and your fanbase wants to burn down the arena.
I mean, that's valid.
I just don't think it's clear what we can expect - that's the problem I'm having.
Kyrie only worked here as well as he did BECAUSE he was off-ball a lot more, imo. I struggle with the assumption that he's THE answer to the Mavs' PG problem, even if healthy. And, if I'm understanding your take on it correctly, you'd basically want him to sit out all year, right? So, we'd be going into NEXT SEASON without really knowing how it would look?
I don't know, man. I think it just makes so much more sense to get out of the mid-30's business altogether, if that's the way the wind is blowing. But, the situation is weird enough that I think there's room for a lot of suggestions.
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(11-12-2025, 12:21 PM)numnuts23 Wrote: Is there any interest to look at Memphis and Ja?
I don't think it would be. Mavs are one of the worst shooting teams in the league as it is and Ja would certainly not help in that department. Also, Davis makes little sense in Memphis
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(11-12-2025, 12:06 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: It makes a lot more sense to only cash in AD and Klay, in case Flagg is that dude. We were in the NBA finals with Luka, Kyrie, Jones, Washington, Lively.
Now don´t get me wrong Lavine, Christie, Russell and DeRozan are nowhere near Luka, but in combination with an improving Flagg (and two lottery picks) that should be a 45 win team. Why waste away in 20 win seasons, when you don´t own your pick anyway and your fanbase wants to burn down the arena. Yes. We want to be bad for one year. Then good for many years. Can’t fully rebuild. Can’t do nothing
Flagg, Lively, Christie are the start start of the young core
Kyrie and PJ are the veteran keepers. Kyrie makes sense short term because of the one year tank we can wait to bring him back. He makes sense long term because guards, scoring, creation, and veteran leadership will be the biggest holes to fill going forward
AD, Klay and Naji are the guys to trade now. AD is brittle and has value and we have too many bigs. Klay is old. Naji is too good to tank with
Gafford could be traded or kept but there’s no rush
Martin, Russell and Hardy have no value and aren’t part of the future
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(11-12-2025, 12:28 PM)omahen Wrote: I don't think it would be. Mavs are one of the worst shooting teams in the league as it is and Ja would certainly not help in that department. Also, Davis makes little sense in Memphis
If you could get him and future assets while sending out someone that isn't part of future plans with the hopes of rehabbing/flipping for more assets, I could see it. I don't think Ja's value is at that low yet and I doubt the Mavs will operate in that mode until a permanent solution at GM is in place (whoever and whenever that is in place).
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(11-12-2025, 12:00 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Me too. Only condition is that their 2026 1st needs to be included. Yes. I want the 2026 prioritized in trades. Conveniently most teams prioritize trading the next summers picks in TDL deals over futures anyway. The 2026 class is loaded. We need to be good going forward. Gives us guys that fit Flaggs timeline.
Maybe Klay could fetch a late pick. Then AD brings back a 2026 and a future. Giving us 3
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(11-12-2025, 12:28 PM)omahen Wrote: I don't think it would be. Mavs are one of the worst shooting teams in the league as it is and Ja would certainly not help in that department. Also, Davis makes little sense in Memphis
I think you'd have to make it a 3 team trade - with various pieces moving. I agree, Memphis and AD aren't a fit.
However, with Ja running point, Kyrie coming back and could play SG - you'd have plenty of offense. The spacing would create a lot more easy looks for Christie, Flagg and PJ....which should help the shooting. Might even look to get a 3/D player thrown into the trade as well.
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Do we have any Lamello Ball believers left around here? I have an unhealthy bias against his whole family, and have always found his style pretty off-putting, so I wrote him off years ago, but there are many smart national NBA observers who seem to still be buying land on Lamello island.
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11-12-2025, 12:48 PM
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(11-12-2025, 12:43 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Do we have any Lamello Ball believers left around here? I have an unhealthy bias against his whole family, and have always found his style pretty off-putting, so I wrote him off years ago, but there are many smart national NBA observers who seem to still be buying land on Lamello island.
I'd love it. He's an athletic poor man's Luka...which since this team was built for him - it just might work.
Now, if your talking about that team in general - I think their future is very bright.
Pretty heavy at SF - Bridges/Knueppel/Miller/McNeeley
But loaded with young talent
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(11-12-2025, 12:43 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Do we have any Lamello Ball believers left around here? I have an unhealthy bias against his whole family, and have always found his style pretty off-putting, so I wrote him off years ago, but there are many smart national NBA observers who seem to still be buying land on Lamello island.
If he can mature, sure. Lonzo did, but Mello is behind Lonzo's curve in that area.
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