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[myconsumerclub]

I agree you never reward a guy like Nico for something that was not due to his creating the situation that led to us getting Cooper. I am back in terms of being a fan. I was almost ready to look at finding another team I was thinking Los Angeles was going to be my new favorite team because of Luka being on it but then I thought LA sucks you know what and I had a gag response from thinking I could ever be a fan of that team.

[Chicagojk]

The Luka thing is the only insurmontable mistake. That is a franchise changing mistake that could have ended any hope for 10 plus years. Miraculuosly they may have gotten lucky.

GM's can have the Grimes mistakes a few times and it hardly mattters. I agree I can see the Martin appeal, even if I didn't agree with it. If your remember when the trade was made Nico thought he had a championship contender now (laughs). The front office made the decision that they preferred the young Christie and the older, win now player in Klay over Grimes. I did not particularly agree with that. Although, if that is the case you have your decision that you were not going to resign Grimes.

The big issue with the Grimes trade is the negotiotion. First, for including the early second round pick. OK, for a healthy Martin maybe that is defensible...maybe. Although when you got word that he was hurt to not play hardball when you thought you had a contender (laughs) is just terrible business.

But here we ae. I had every intention of walking away or taking a step back. I was too weak though. Maybe that would have changed if we picked 12 and had another bad year. I think I am back now . Although, I am in fear of some other stupid move almost every day. LOL

[KillerLeft]

Although, if that is the case you have your decision that you were not going to resign Grimes.

I agree with your post - it's quite reasonable. 

But, I think it's important to remind ourselves that they DID want to keep Grimes, and in fact offered him a deal. He turned it down, and they apparently didn't see eye to eye with him about either his perceived self-worth, contractually, his role or (probably) both (higher salaries and offensive responsibility tend to go hand in hand). 

I don't know that this is a distinction that will change anyone's mind about that deal, but it does seem like they had a carefully considered idea of what he was worth to them, and that wasn't "nothing." It just wasn't a fit here.

[Chicagojk]

I agree with your post - it's quite reasonable. 

But, I think it's important to remind ourselves that they DID want to keep Grimes, and in fact offered him a deal. He turned it down, and they apparently didn't see eye to eye with him about either his perceived self-worth, contractually, his role or (probably) both (higher salaries and offensive responsibility tend to go hand in hand). 

I don't know that this is a distinction that will change anyone's mind about that deal, but it does seem like they had a carefully considered idea of what he was worth to them, and that wasn't "nothing." It just wasn't a fit here.

You are right.  This was before the year right?  So maybe they list cost controlled contracts for bench pieces almost above all else...especially if they are comparable talents.

I just thought he was good.  Kidd just never fully trusted him.   I can see the appeal for Martin, but I think Grimes is the better player.

[Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo]

I think it's important to remind ourselves that they DID want to keep Grimes, and in fact offered him a deal. He turned it down, and they apparently didn't see eye to eye with him about either his perceived self-worth, contractually, his role or (probably) both (higher salaries and offensive responsibility tend to go hand in hand). 

Applies to Brunson too.
We know how that turned out.

[KillerLeft]

Applies to Brunson too.
We know how that turned out.

With respect, I think that's totally different. Brunson actually IS the player Grimes wants to be/thinks he is. And, Brunson had been steadily becoming that player, making no secret of it, steadily becoming more and more crucial here as he went. THAT ONE is totally indefensible, in my opinion, but it happened on Cuban's watch. I'm not saying Harrison would've done anything different, and he was the GM, but it was done with Cuban being the guy who decides what remuneration level is appropriate for each player. 

I get the point you're making about the approach relative to Grimes, but Grimes is NOT going to be made the featured offensive player in anyone's system. His next team is going to hope they can get him to do exactly what Dallas wanted him to do, and probably what Detroit wanted before that. For all the talk of his defense coming into last season (much of which I participated in) he seemed pretty uninterested in making that his calling card during his time here. I wasn't thrilled with his effectiveness on that side of the ball, personally, reputation be damned.

Brunson is EXACTLY who he set out to be. If the Mavs had Brunson on the roster right now, they'd be my favorites to win the West.

Losing Brunson for nothing was worse than the Luka trade, imho. I will probably never get over that one.

[Winter]

Most of this is regurgitated in a bunch of separate posts. I decided to "aggragate"

June 26th, 2025 at 6:27pm CST by Dana Gauruder

"The Mavericks frontcourt might seem a little crowded with Dereck Lively, Anthony Davis, P.J. Washington and Daniel Gafford — who just agreed to an extension — joined by top pick Cooper Flagg. However, general manager Nico Harrison indicated he’s planning to have all of them sharing minutes, rather than moving one of the veterans. He also envisions Washington, the incumbent starting small forward, playing together with Flagg at times.

Harrison even brought up the subject with Washington.

“I said, ‘Hey, P.J., you think you guys can play together?’ ” Harrison recalled, per Brad Townsend of the Dallas Morning News. “He’s like, ‘Oh yeah, we can play together.’ So I don’t see any jealousy. I think guys are excited to play with him and as he’s ready, he’s gonna get more and more opportunities.”

By winning the draft lottery, Harrison believes the team will be contenders for years to come.

“I think it’s win now. It’s also win in the future,” Harrison said. “Eventually it’s going to be Cooper’s team. We don’t know when that transition will happen. So I think it’s win now and then set yourself up to win in the future as well.”

Harrison said the Mavs will look in free agency to fill the temporary void left by Kyrie Irving‘s ACL injury but it won’t necessarily be a traditional point guard. “I’m not really worried about someone to run the offense. I think we’ve got enough guys that can handle the ball and play multiple positions — just someone to get us organized,” Harrison said, per Afseth, adding, “A lot of players want to come play in Dallas.”

Harrison emphasized during his press conference that Jason Kidd was staying put as head coach, dousing speculation that Kidd could wind up with the Knicks. Sean Sweeney‘s agent, Andy Miller, told Townsend (Twitter link) that Dallas did want to keep Sweeney but that the Spurs offered the highly regarded assistant a “bigger role.” “Sean’s contract was expiring,” Miller said. “Dallas made a yeoman’s effort to obviously retain him. They wanted to keep him. I think for Sean this is an opportunity to have a bigger role, a bigger say, more input, with an upward trajectory…”

[Chicagojk]

https://x.com/mavsfilmroom/status/193841...67142?s=46

https://x.com/mavsfilmroom/status/193841...32238?s=46

https://x.com/mavsfilmroom/status/193841...80161?s=46

[cow]

CP3 or we riot!

[SleepingHero]

Mavs(New)CBA (@CBAMavs)
On the @DLLS_Mavs show, @bobbykaralla and @TheSteinLine both said they’d prefer Russell Westbrook over D’Angelo Russell. Specifically because he’s a better current player.

[Chicagojk]

I would much prefer Paul for the role we have.  Here are some assists for Russell though.  A lot to AD.

[cow]

Mavs(New)CBA (@CBAMavs)
On the @DLLS_Mavs show, @bobbykaralla and @TheSteinLine both said they’d prefer Russell Westbrook over D’Angelo Russell. Specifically because he’s a better current player.

[Jym]

Mavs(New)CBA (@CBAMavs)
On the @DLLS_Mavs show, @bobbykaralla and @TheSteinLine both said they’d prefer Russell Westbrook over D’Angelo Russell. Specifically because he’s a better current player.

now that is just crazy talk 
I'd rather just throw BWill and Hardy out there. At least they can hit an open 3

[myconsumerclub]

funny we got AD and now we are thinking of adding DLO.

One of our all times greats at PG was Brad Davis and he was an ex Laker

[Chicagojk]

I think Paul is the best FA short term option for the TPMLE. I am glad they were able to clear some money to offer this. It has been reported he would prefer to stay in LA with his family. Do you know what the Lakers or Clippers can offer? Can they offer the same ammount as the Mavs? Both the Clippers and Lakers are good teams and he would get backup minutes there. Dallas should also be a good team and there is a starting spot here....at least for a little while. It will be an interesting decision for him. I just hope he is #1 on the mavs wishlist and move on if he wants to go another direction.

[mvossman]

Totally agree with this point. I don't want to sound like a homer, but I have recently adopted sort of a "clean slate" approach to my expectations of Harrison and my Mavs fandom has become much more enjoyable. While I reserve the right to fly off the handle if/when he does something I think is ridiculous, I'm no longer expecting it, and it's fun to follow the team again. Much more hopeful. We have no control over that part, after all. 

Ironically, I've noticed that the vast majority of the people who can't stand Harrison actually AGREE with his basketball philosophies more than I do. My issues with him are more about how little he values offensive creation and how much he values size - I think both are important, but his ratios seem bananas to me. I've noticed that many of those who are super down on him are the same who are hoping the Mavs employ 9-10 centers on their 15-man roster, which seems to be how he sees the game, too. No real takeaway to suggest there, I just thought it was kind of funny.

I'm in the minority.  I think we are on the same page regarding centers, and I think its silly to play AD at the 4 more than a couple of minutes a game.  I think the best way to balance the roster it to send out one of the centers (including AD) in a trade.  

As for Nico, I prefer to brace myself for what is very likely to happen.  He has done nothing to warrant a clean slate.  Two of his biggest wins are rewards for incompetence (Flagg and Lively).  Now that he is traded away all of the future draft picks, he can't me rewarded for incompetence again.

[mvossman]

With respect, I think that's totally different. Brunson actually IS the player Grimes wants to be/thinks he is. And, Brunson had been steadily becoming that player, making no secret of it, steadily becoming more and more crucial here as he went. THAT ONE is totally indefensible, in my opinion, but it happened on Cuban's watch. I'm not saying Harrison would've done anything different, and he was the GM, but it was done with Cuban being the guy who decides what remuneration level is appropriate for each player. 

I get the point you're making about the approach relative to Grimes, but Grimes is NOT going to be made the featured offensive player in anyone's system. His next team is going to hope they can get him to do exactly what Dallas wanted him to do, and probably what Detroit wanted before that. For all the talk of his defense coming into last season (much of which I participated in) he seemed pretty uninterested in making that his calling card during his time here. I wasn't thrilled with his effectiveness on that side of the ball, personally, reputation be damned.

Brunson is EXACTLY who he set out to be. If the Mavs had Brunson on the roster right now, they'd be my favorites to win the West.

Losing Brunson for nothing was worse than the Luka trade, imho. I will probably never get over that one.

I don't think its totally different.  I don't think Grimes is going to be Brunson level, but I think there was a clear misevaluation of talent (both Grimes and Caleb).  I am curious to see what Philly does with him.  My guess is they get some kind of asset if they don't keep him.  The most likely end result of Caleb is paying assets to dump him.  Lets also not forget how that trade pinned the Mavs from a cap perspective and did not allow them an avenue to address the injuries.  That trade was a failure in player evaluation, asset management and cap management.  It probably won't be the last.

[F Gump]

Wondering: if the Mavs fired Nico, what do we think about Masai Ujiri as a replacement?

[mvossman]

Wondering: if the Mavs fired Nico, what do we think about Masai Ujiri as a replacement?

Since the title it seems like he has been floundering.  I feel like he lost a lot of talent without getting proper value and waited too long to go into full rebuild.  Maybe some of that was due to the owner.

Personally, if they actually fired Nico I would probably vote for Linsey.  He has prior experience as GM and recent experience here.

[Scott41theMavs]

I'm in the minority.  I think we are on the same page regarding centers, and I think its silly to play AD at the 4 more than a couple of minutes a game.  I think the best way to balance the roster it to send out one of the centers (including AD) in a trade.  

As for Nico, I prefer to brace myself for what is very likely to happen.  He has done nothing to warrant a clean slate.  Two of his biggest wins are rewards for incompetence (Flagg and Lively).  Now that he is traded away all of the future draft picks, he can't me rewarded for incompetence again.

All the draft picks... well...

2026 - we have our pick
2027 - to Charlotte
2028 - swap with OKC
2029 - to Houston or Brooklyn
2030 - swap with San Antonio
2031 on - we have our picks (for now)

There's a three-year wilderness there - and we'll see about 2030. In any event, 2026 is the most likely to be a good pick, given Kyrie's absence and Cooper's rookiedom. 

In any event, I'd say we got lucky in the right draft.

I still think the Luka trade was league-instigated and with the promise of Flagg. But if so, he doesn't receive credit for the dividends.