Trade & FA 2024-25:

[F Gump]

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The Celtics could break up if they lose this series against the Knicks, per @WindhorstESPN


“There's a possibility this team's not gonna come back. ... That's what's on the line.”


I will take 1 Jaylen Brown please. I'd trade quite literally every single player on this roster for Brown.

Captain Obvious (Windy) has spoken. (And despite what he wants to imply, trying to make it sound insightful, it has NOTHING to do with BOS's 0-2 hole that they might not overcome.)

Facing a $500M payroll next season, due to salary and tax, the idea that BOS will get rid of some chunks of salary (which means the players that go with it) seems like a lock to the whole NBA. Cool, Windy figured it out too!

But some reality facts:
1 Don't get your hopes up for a star. It's highly unlikely that they will be letting go of their top guys (Tatum, Brown) but if a team really wants players further down the pecking order, that's where the window of availability will be.
2 Don't get your hopes up for Mavs being involved at all. In order to get some of what BOS would offer, you have to be able to absorb extra salary in the trade. That disqualifies the Mavs (and quite a few teams).
3 The biggest name they'll try to move is likely to be KP. Mavs would have no interest in that player, even if they could.

[Chicagojk]

So Giannis may be open to a trade. Where do you think he winds up? Houston makes sense but it is going to take a haul. Not sure alot of teams have the draft capital to really get the right value for him.

So, lets say the Knicks flame out against Boston, how about a Kat for Durant trade? If they think Mitchell Robinson can play 25-30 minutes, I wonder if that is something they will consider. They could put out some really interesting lineups with KD.

Athletic says the Rockets are no longer interested in Devin Booker and have faith in Jalen Green. Posturing no doubt.

[omahen]

So Giannis may be open to a trade.  Where do you think he winds up?  Houston makes sense but it is going to take a haul.  Not sure alot of teams have the draft capital to really get the right value for him.

So, lets say the Knicks flame out against Boston, how about a Kat for Durant trade?  If they think Mitchell Robinson can play 25-30 minutes, I wonder if that is something they will consider.  They could put out some really interesting lineups with KD. 

Athletic says the Rockets are no longer interested in Devin Booker and have faith in Jalen Green.  Posturing no doubt.

Personally, I fully expect Giannis to be traded this summer. That team has no future and I think he gave many indications he wants to compete, possibly in a big market. I don't think Milwaukee can put a competing team around him again, with no young upside and more or less all of their picks traded or swapped.

Giannis has two more years on his deal, so a solid deal for a team that wants to go into immediate contention with him. A 2 year window and possibility for more. I think Milwaukee will want elite package of prime picks (a bunch of unprotected FRP) and some very high upside prospects. The last part can be very subjective. I think Milwaukee will do Giannis a solid and listen to an extent where he wants to go (I think this is a team that is immediate contender), but not for a mediocre package. My list of possible candidates: Houston, San Antonio, OKC. Some rumors Toronto could be a candidate, although I don't see it. Why would Milwaukee want to build around Scottie Barnes or why would Giannis want to go to Toronto, other than he is allegedly friend of Masai?  I don't think NY has the pieces to interest Milwaukee. Towns is no where near value wise and picks were already traded. 

Two dark horse candidates imho:
1) Philly, if they keep their 2025 pick or perhaps even move up in the lottery.
2) Brooklyn. They have the cap space flexibility and assets to make a major surprise. Sort of what Clippers did with Kawhi/George package or Brooklyn with Durant/Irving. Giannis would like to be in a big market. 

Houston probably doesn't want to deal Amen and Alperen, even if it is Giannis. Jabari Smith becomes somewhat expendable for Houston if they get Giannis, but he is also still very, very young and basically a great starter to have, even if he doesn't develop into a star. I guess Green will also have to be included, as they will need to get a bunch of salaries to match him.

[Nowitzki Way]

So Giannis may be open to a trade.  Where do you think he winds up?  Houston makes sense but it is going to take a haul.  Not sure alot of teams have the draft capital to really get the right value for him.

So, lets say the Knicks flame out against Boston, how about a Kat for Durant trade?  If they think Mitchell Robinson can play 25-30 minutes, I wonder if that is something they will consider.  They could put out some really interesting lineups with KD. 

Athletic says the Rockets are no longer interested in Devin Booker and have faith in Jalen Green.  Posturing no doubt.

A Giannis trade is fun to think about. Kind of like what we THOUGHT a Luka trade would look like.  A ton of picks and young players, then some decent players for salary matching.

Early rumblings are that Giannis wants to go to one of the larger markets. L.A , New York, etc. He's been small market his whole career with Milwaukee and may want a change. L.A. doesnt have the assets or draft capital for that. But we've been fooled before. 

Knicks i could see it.  KAT and Giannis are pretty much a match with salary.  Add in every pick they can get 

But if market is no issue. OKC has all the ammo in the world. This is the guy you hoard draft picks and young players for.  Same with Houston. They have the ammo

[KillerLeft]

If we're predicting a Giannis destination, my guess would be that he stays in Milwaukee, but if not, Holmgren + a King's ransom in draft capital to put OKC over the top makes a lot of sense to me.

[SleepingHero]

So Giannis may be open to a trade.  Where do you think he winds up?  Houston makes sense but it is going to take a haul.  Not sure alot of teams have the draft capital to really get the right value for him.

So, lets say the Knicks flame out against Boston, how about a Kat for Durant trade?  If they think Mitchell Robinson can play 25-30 minutes, I wonder if that is something they will consider.  They could put out some really interesting lineups with KD. 

Athletic says the Rockets are no longer interested in Devin Booker and have faith in Jalen Green.  Posturing no doubt.

I think I saw a tweet that said Giannis is really only interested in NYK, Lakers, and Miami if he were to be traded. Of those teams, NYK has the best package by far. 


KAT for Durant is interesting although I'm not sure if that really helps NYK. I think it'd also cost them Bridges and at that point are they really improving?

[Knutsen]

So Giannis may be open to a trade.  Where do you think he winds up?  Houston makes sense but it is going to take a haul.  Not sure alot of teams have the draft capital to really get the right value for him.

So, lets say the Knicks flame out against Boston, how about a Kat for Durant trade?  If they think Mitchell Robinson can play 25-30 minutes, I wonder if that is something they will consider.  They could put out some really interesting lineups with KD. 

Athletic says the Rockets are no longer interested in Devin Booker and have faith in Jalen Green.  Posturing no doubt.

So what if we win the lottery today - would you trade Cooper Flagg and whatever else is needed to get Giannis? Not if you’re Nico - he would trade him for LeBron or KD - but if you were a real GM.

[Nowitzki Way]

So what if we win the lottery today - would you trade Cooper Flagg and whatever else is needed to get Giannis? Not if you’re Nico - he would trade him for LeBron or KD - but if you were a real GM.

Thats a tough one.

But we'd have to match his 50 million salary minus whatever Flagg makes, i'm assuming.  i thats around 13 million for year 1. So we're still needing 40 million.

So basically the trade would be Flagg, P.J, Gafford, Caleb Martin for Giannis. 

You'd have a starting lineup (when Kyrie is healthy)

Kyrie
Klay
Giannis
Anthony Davis
Lively

Bench

Naji
Max
Hardy
Powell
Bwill
Omax

Starting lineup is crazy good. Old but good. Bench might be the worst in the league. So i dont know.  Maybe we could hold out P.J. and give them Klay. Not sure how we could work that.

[omahen]

I think I saw a tweet that said Giannis is really only interested in NYK, Lakers, and Miami if he were to be traded. Of those teams, NYK has the best package by far. 


KAT for Durant is interesting although I'm not sure if that really helps NYK. I think it'd also cost them Bridges and at that point are they really improving?

Knicks literally don't have any assets. They have zero FRP to trade, no young players with high upside. Milwaukee is not trading Giannis to get worse with KAT. And if you include a third team, KAT would fetch a couple of picks on the market, but nothing special. He had a good season, but he is still way overpaid secondary option. 

Brooklyn could make by far best package, if Giannis would be interested. Besides them, I think Miami could make the best offer of these "destination" teams, but even that wouldn't be anything special. They have a couple of interesting, but nothing special, young players like Ware, Jovic and Jaquez and 3 FRP to trade. Expiring deals to salary match.

[JamesConway912]

Irving
Lively
Washington
Gafford
ALL our picks and swaps

Man we could have put together a solid package for Giannis

But these assclowns had to ruin an entire NBA with the dumbest trade in the history of this league.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Giannis-Davis-Lively can't stay on the floor in this NBA.

Btw i don't think Giannis wants to come in this toxic organization.

[JamesConway912]

Giannis-Davis-Lively can't stay on the floor in this NBA.

Btw i don't think Giannis wants to come in this toxic organization.

I meant before they set the organzation and its reputation on fire. Now he never in a hundred years agrees to play here obviously. Nobody wants to play for the guy who just surpassed Billy King as the dumbest GM of the Century.

[Chicagojk]

Knicks literally don't have any assets. They have zero FRP to trade, no young players with high upside. Milwaukee is not trading Giannis to get worse with KAT. And if you include a third team, KAT would fetch a couple of picks on the market, but nothing special. He had a good season, but he is still way overpaid secondary option. 

Brooklyn could make by far best package, if Giannis would be interested. Besides them, I think Miami could make the best offer of these "destination" teams, but even that wouldn't be anything special. They have a couple of interesting, but nothing special, young players like Ware, Jovic and Jaquez and 3 FRP to trade. Expiring deals to salary match.

The Heat don't have enough right?   I think there magic is gone, but this is when they surprise.    Can you imagine after losing Dame to Milwaukee they wind up with Giannis two years later.  LOL.

Riley is a big game hunter.    Although, Riley may be ready for the retirement community soon.

[Knutsen]

So what if we win the lottery today - would you trade Cooper Flagg and whatever else is needed to get Giannis? Not if you’re Nico - he would trade him for LeBron or KD - but if you were a real GM.

So time to repeat this question a couple hours later: would you or wouldn’t you, guys?

[ballsrchr]

So time to repeat this question a couple hours later: would you or wouldn’t you, guys?

No!  I would not trade Flagg at all.  This is a chance to build through the draft.  And I think we need what Flagg brings.  But we have to get Nico FIRED.

[loki]

So time to repeat this question a couple hours later: would you or wouldn’t you, guys?

Flagg can be the franchise cornerstone for the next 15 years. I'm keeping him and thinking long term, even if it means moving AD.

[ThisIStheYear]

Thats a tough one.

But we'd have to match his 50 million salary minus whatever Flagg makes, i'm assuming.  i thats around 13 million for year 1. So we're still needing 40 million.

So basically the trade would be Flagg, P.J, Gafford, Caleb Martin for Giannis. 

You'd have a starting lineup (when Kyrie is healthy)

Kyrie
Klay
Giannis
Anthony Davis
Lively

Bench

Naji
Max
Hardy
Powell
Bwill
Omax

Starting lineup is crazy good. Old but good. Bench might be the worst in the league. So i dont know.  Maybe we could hold out P.J. and give them Klay. Not sure how we could work that.

For the record, that team would be so much worse on the court than on paper with 3 starters who can’t shoot a 3.  Giannis is just a better version of AD. Lively is a worse version of AD. It would never work.  But the Mavs have so many options now, this thread is actually relevant again.  Let’s build a proper team. Three two way players who can shoot. Flagg. AD/Lively.  Kyrie, maybe.  Cheers.

[Jym]

I wonder what kind of a guard we could get with PJ, Gafford, and the Lakers pick

[RasheedsBigWhiteSpot]

I do PJ, Gafford and Martin plus the Lakers pick (top 3 protected) for Morant.

Ja
Kyrie
Flagg
AD
Lively

It's the "Mullet" starting lineup: "Business (D) in the frontcourt. Party (O) in the backcourt"

[Smitty]

Gafford+filler for Sexton, White, Reaves, etc. makes the most sense to me.

When healthy I think prefer the starting 5 of Kyrie, (Gaff-Trade), Flagg, PJ, AD. Klay as the 6th man and Lively off the bench with his minutes limited during the regular season.