MAVS NEWS:

[Chicagojk]

The Mavs have that train-wreck/car wreck appeal. I don't want to look, but it's hard to take my eyes off of it. Not the games, which were hard to watch. I didn't want to watch, because I don't want to call them my team, but some of 'em are my guys, as a fan. It's the goings-on around the team. How can Nico survive this? The longer he stays, the more I dislike him and his ignorance about the dynamics of the team.

1st, no matter what Dumont thinks about Nico, Nico has to go. The new GM, and it had better be someone really good, has to put this thing back together, if that can be done. Not so much on court, but how to get back a lost fan base. They've sold quite a few season tickets, I believe, but the rank and file feel shat-upon. Have to be fairly kinky to enjoy that, as a fan.

On court, they've got to get a young PG to build around to be able to start to compete. Off court, it's going to take a miracle worker to get the fans back. Nico will say winning will cure all ills, and maybe so, but it has to be, winning after he's gone.

I really planned to step away after the trade.  I did not.  I was not rooting for the team though.  It was too deep in my live.  I would watch the games after putting the kids to sleep, listen to Mavs podcasts (and general nba), check this board and nba Reddit.  It was to engrained for me to step away.  Now that the season is over and I feel very little connection or interest in a lot of the players (and my distaste for the front office/ownership) I may very well look for alternatives.

I can see why Dumont may hesitate blowing things up.  It will be a long painful process but may be the best direction.  I am just not sure how this team can become a contender and also looking at how the younger teams will continue to improve.  The Mavs need to have a miracle to change this.  If no miracle appears than a tough early deal schedule may be the best bet.  Sink or swim.  If they sink they you blow it up.  Actually an early seasonAD injury (month or so) could be the best outcome.  Nico is exposed further, you move AD.  Tell Kyrie not to rush and try to make the most of your last controlled draft
Pick for the next 4 years.  Then you do a very non Mavs thing.  The OKC route.  You look to be a dumping ground for bad contracts and turn into a pick whore.

I don’t think they do this but eventually I think that will be the end goal…just without having our picks. A new GM is brought in.  dumont eventually exits stage left and we hope they have the right guys who will make smart decisions and see if the fans return in 5 plus years

[FireNicoHarrison]

I really planned to step away after the trade.  I did not.  I was not rooting for the team though.  It was too deep in my live.  I would watch the games after putting the kids to sleep, listen to Mavs podcasts (and general nba), check this board and nba Reddit.  It was to engrained for me to step away.  Now that the season is over and I feel very little connection or interest in a lot of the players (and my distaste for the front office/ownership) I may very well look for alternatives.

I can see why Dumont may hesitate blowing things up.  It will be a long painful process but may be the best direction.  I am just not sure how this team can become a contender and also looking at how the younger teams will continue to improve.  The Mavs need to have a miracle to change this.  If no miracle appears than a tough early deal schedule may be the best bet.  Sink or swim.  If they sink they you blow it up.  Actually an early seasonAD injury (month or so) could be the best outcome.  Nico is exposed further, you move AD.  Tell Kyrie not to rush and try to make the most of your last controlled draft
Pick for the next 4 years.  Then you do a very non Mavs thing.  The OKC route.  You look to be a dumping ground for bad contracts and turn into a pick whore.

I don’t think they do this but eventually I think that will be the end goal…just without having our picks. A new GM is brought in.  dumont eventually exits stage left and we hope they have the right guys who will make smart decisions and see if the fans return in 5 plus years

This team can't became a contender without another NBA collusion ...

[david75090]

Think the Mavs are at their peak when Kyrie comes back, topping out at around 6th in the West. Without him, what we saw this year, at about 10th. Barring a miracle, it doesn't get better, for a while, from here. Fire Nico, hire someone Great, not good, let that person overhaul the whole thing. Dumont has to fire Nico, today.

[rocky164]

I really planned to step away after the trade.  I did not.  I was not rooting for the team though.  It was too deep in my live.  I would watch the games after putting the kids to sleep, listen to Mavs podcasts (and general nba), check this board and nba Reddit.  It was to engrained for me to step away.  Now that the season is over and I feel very little connection or interest in a lot of the players (and my distaste for the front office/ownership) I may very well look for alternatives.

I can see why Dumont may hesitate blowing things up.  It will be a long painful process but may be the best direction.  I am just not sure how this team can become a contender and also looking at how the younger teams will continue to improve.  The Mavs need to have a miracle to change this.  If no miracle appears than a tough early deal schedule may be the best bet.  Sink or swim.  If they sink they you blow it up.  Actually an early seasonAD injury (month or so) could be the best outcome.  Nico is exposed further, you move AD.  Tell Kyrie not to rush and try to make the most of your last controlled draft
Pick for the next 4 years.  Then you do a very non Mavs thing.  The OKC route.  You look to be a dumping ground for bad contracts and turn into a pick whore.

I don’t think they do this but eventually I think that will be the end goal…just without having our picks. A new GM is brought in.  dumont eventually exits stage left and we hope they have the right guys who will make smart decisions and see if the fans return in 5 plus years

For me the biggest problem with going through a 5-10 year rebuild is watching Luka be successful in LA or wherever he chooses to play.  It will just make the process that much more painful.

[Knutsen]

Think the Mavs are at their peak when Kyrie comes back, topping out at around 6th in the West. Without him, what we saw this year, at about 10th. Barring a miracle, it doesn't get better, for a while, from here. Fire Nico, hire someone Great, not good, let that person overhaul the whole thing. Dumont has to fire Nico, today.

Nico is just paving the way that our next big leader will look good in comparison - the young Adelson that will lead us to glory for the next fifty years!

[HoosierDaddyKid]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6281512...pionships/


Nico says defense wins championships, but is that still true?

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

Think the Mavs are at their peak when Kyrie comes back, topping out at around 6th in the West. Without him, what we saw this year, at about 10th. Barring a miracle, it doesn't get better, for a while, from here. Fire Nico, hire someone Great, not good, let that person overhaul the whole thing. Dumont has to fire Nico, today.

I expect the roster to look different than it does now. 

I don’t see how they can sell the current roster (post Kyrie injury) to the fans still following the team.

[HoosierDaddyKid]

Think the Mavs are at their peak when Kyrie comes back, topping out at around 6th in the West. Without him, what we saw this year, at about 10th. Barring a miracle, it doesn't get better, for a while, from here. Fire Nico, hire someone Great, not good, let that person overhaul the whole thing. Dumont has to fire Nico, today.

I don't even know if they can get to a 6th seed as currently constructed. A lot depends on how often AD can remain healthy, and what Kyrie looks like coming off a major surgery on the wrong side of 30. There are other teams in the West who will improve, and we can't get a read on just yet.

[cow]

I don't even know if they can get to a 6th seed as currently constructed. A lot depends on how often AD can remain healthy, and what Kyrie looks like coming off a major surgery on the wrong side of 30. There are other teams in the West who will improve, and we can't get a read on just yet.

It's safe to assume that AD will miss around 20 games per season.  He's averaged 60.5 games played throughout his career.

[FireNicoHarrison]

6th seed was 49W this season... No way Mavs roster can match it. Mostly with Kyrie out.

[F Gump]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6281512...pionships/


Nico says defense wins championships, but is that still true?

I have been wondering the same thing. I'd love to see someone push back at him on his repeated but fully unsupported claim that the best defense wins the title. While BOS won a year ago with the #1 defense, how often does the #1 defense FAIL to win a title?

What if you trade away your ability to score, for another defender? Will the defense save you?

[khaled1987]

I have been wondering the same thing. I'd love to see someone push back at him on his repeated but fully unsupported claim that the best defense wins the title. While BOS won a year ago with the #1 defense, how often does the #1 defense FAIL to win a title?

What if you trade away your ability to score, for another defender? Will the defense save you?

The complete sentence was always "offense wins games, defense wins championship".

It is with the idea that any contender will have good offense, and the difference makers are defense. 

JJ Reddick talked about it last year, saying that now it is more about the ability to get stops when needed especially in the 4th

Last year Boston was 3rd in the regular season btw, not first. They were first on offense

[F Gump]

Last year Boston was 3rd in the regular season btw, not first. They were first on offense

So defense didnt win a championship last year either. Aha. 

Nico strikes again!! Its great we can count on Nico to use a central operating axiom that is wrong -- like the rest of his assessments, fittingly.

[FireNicoHarrison]

The problem is that Irving-Klay-PJ-Davis-Lively isn't an elite defensive lineup in this NBA era. No way.
And mostly it's a very bad offensive lineup.

Harrison view doesn't need time, it's dead wrong... But i don't think he has some view about that trade, it's collusion.

[michaeltex]

For discussion purposes, here are the last to NBA Champions plus this year's #1 seed.

Season               Team             Def. Rank           Off. Rank

24-25                   OKC                   1                      T-1            (current #1 seed, Best championship odds)
23-24                   BOS                   2                       4
22-23                   DEN                   15                     6
21-22                   GSW                  2                       2
20-21                   MKE                   9                       9
19-20                   LAL                    3                       4                (COVID season)
18-19                   TOR                   5                       9
17-18                   GSW                  11                      1
16-17                   GSW                   2                       1
15-16                   CLE                    10                      4
14-15                   GSW                   1                       1

Unscientifically, the Defensive rank for NBA champions is 5.9, while the offensive rank is 4.1 Maybe some skewing due to 4 GSW teams showing up, but (except for 17-18) they were high in both categories.

There are also other factors that contribute to winning a championship but are hard to quantify. For example, injuries, even if the player is still able to play is there a diminished performance? How officials call games. How long the series go. Is there a bad matchup that tilts the results. Does a team play way over (or under) seasonal averages.

Just looking at the data it feels like you have to have at least a decent defense, but you damn well need to have a good offense. I might even theorize that a top offense can improve the defense by putting so much scoring pressure the opponent can't keep up and makes key mistakes. (think last year's finals)

[myconsumerclub]

Nico still here? If so no dough for the mavs not one dime spent on anything mavs related not a dime. BOYCOTT!

[HoosierDaddyKid]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/cowbo...al-friend/


Jerry Jones said his wife cried when Dallas traded Luka Doncic.

[Chicagojk]

Mavs making major changes to training and medical staff. That group could have ended Lively’s career by their carelessness. Just terrible

[OBX Maverick]

Mavs making major changes to training and medical staff.  That group could have ended Lively’s career by their carelessness.  Just terrible

You referring to them missing the fracture?

You may be right, but i wouldn’t just assume it was overlooked based on an interview or report.

[F Gump]

You referring to them missing the fracture?

You may be right, but i wouldn’t just assume it was overlooked based on an interview or report.

The "new" Mavs training staff (the ones hired in 2024) were an absolute mess - incredibly unqualified, and completely dysfunctional. It wasn't just with Lively. The more we find out these numbnuts, the more it looks like Luka had every reason to try to keep them away from his own care. That doesn't mean Luka was otherwise doing the right thing, but why would you trust a $500M asset to pure idiots?

These were the ones Nico felt were much superior, and had his personal seal of approval. The decisions they made (the Lively lunacy was part of that) were horrendous, and befitting idiots. It's very much another indication of just how unqualified Nico is for the job.