2025 draft thread: THE MAVS SELECT COOPER FLAGG

[Chicagojk]

Not his finest performance watching the condensed game and the boxscore, right?

Meanwhile Flagg hat a whale of a game with 30 points, 6 boards, 7 assists and 3 blocks and only one turnover. 

But great that we have beaten the Magic and increased our chances to lose in the first round of the playoffs!

Yeah not a good game from Bryant.  He clearly needs another year to have more responsibility.  It would be good for him.  If he is in the draft, I think some late lottery teams will look at him hard because of what he may become
In a few years.

I really struggle with Jase Richardson.  Amazingly efficient plays well beyond his years as a freshman.  He just is small, almost all left handed and doesn’t really play make.

[Chicagojk]

Caleb Love was spectacular last night. He’s one of many good players the Mavs could have drafted if not for the ill advised Grimes trade. Stupidity.

Such a tough evaluation.  He has been around forever and has been productive.  But fans of his teams are not even high on him.  ESPN and The athletic have him outside the top 75/100.  I do wonder if he can lower his load and be a similar player as KCP.  He takes tough shots and is streaky.  But if he is undrafted, he is a guy who has played a lot and could find a support role for a team if he can be a guy who defends and makes open shots.

[SleepingHero]

Cooper Flagg is amazing. But Kon Knueppel is also extremely good. His name is just so hilariously weird.

[Chicagojk]

Cooper Flagg is amazing. But Kon Knueppel is also extremely good. His name is just so hilariously weird.

Yes Kon is.  Very smart with a tight end body.  Just knows how to play.  Just the weirdest name ever.  All his brothers name start with K.  

I haven’t been able to watch the game besides a few minutes but I love how Phibin moves.  Need to watch more.  Someone mentioned him earlier in this thread.  He has been mocked mid to late first.  Probably not ready for the nba but being 6’4 and how slippery and fast he is will have a lot of teams interested.  Alabama point guards the last few years have tricked me though.

[SleepingHero]

Yes Kon is.  Very smart with a tight end body.  Just knows how to play.  Just the weirdest name ever.  All his brothers name start with K.  

I haven’t been able to watch the game besides a few minutes but I love how Phibin moves.  Need to watch more.  Someone mentioned him earlier in this thread.  He has been mocked mid to late first.  Probably not ready for the nba but being 6’4 and how slippery and fast he is will have a lot of teams interested.  Alabama point guards the last few years have tricked me though.

This entire game has basically been the Flagg/Knueppel/Maluach destroying Bama. 

Philon just seems too small against those dudes. And if he feels small on this stage, I'm not sure how he won't feel small in the NBA. 

Maluach is a beast. I didn't realize he's also a projected top 10 pick. I can see why.

[Chicagojk]

This entire game has basically been the Flagg/Knueppel/Maluach destroying Bama. 

Philon just seems too small against those dudes. And if he feels small on this stage, I'm not sure how he won't feel small in the NBA. 

Maluach is a beast. I didn't realize he's also a projected top 10 pick. I can see why.

You may be right.  I don't know much about Philon.  There is a reason why there is probably a decent chance he returns to college.

I just think how he moves and being 6'4, there is a lot to work with.  I also like when young players can fit in and play a passing point guard role early in their career.  There may be a lot of upside there.  He has a nice pace to his game.

[Chicagojk]

I am not famialr with a lot of these guys, but looking at the final four there are at least three guys who may be in the range of that Sixer pick we gave away.

Walter Clayton Jr
Tyrese Proctor- Not as skilled but gives you some Derrick White feel
Johni Broome- Old senior and probably not a fit for the Mavs due to position, but he will probably have a long career as a backup.

Some of these guys may get pushed up due to their hot play and with some freshman going back if they are not guaranteed a first round pick, but there is a good chance I like that player at 36 more than Caleb Martin. And I thought Martin has been pretty good when he plays. His lack of shooting or taking shots just gives me concern how he fits longterm here.

[aguiar95]

MAVS DRAFT BOARD

1. Flagg

2. Harper

3. Jakucionis
4. Edgecombe
5. Bayley

6. Johnson
7. Fears

8. Murray-Boyles
9. Knueppel

If none above are available, try to trade down while dumping Hardy+Powell (getting below the 2nd tax).

10. Maluach
11. Fleming
12. Clifford
13. Newell

If none above are available, I'd rather trade our pick for someone ready to contribute now.

14. Saraf
15. Traore
16. McNeeley
17. Richardson
18. Riley
19. Beringuer
20. Sorber
21. Lendenborg
22. De Larrea

[F Gump]

If none above are available, I'd rather trade our pick for someone ready to contribute now.

What would this look like? Good theory to do something like that, but who would this be?

[Reunion Mav]

What would this look like? Good theory to do something like that, but who would this be?

Unless we fall into a Brunson or Lively sort of pick, we need a ball handler and offense creator for next year and for when Kyrie is gone ( hopefully not soon) so I would love to see younger talent who can help the rotation next year.

[F Gump]

Unless we fall into a Brunson or Lively sort of pick, we need a ball handler and offense creator for next year and for when Kyrie is gone ( hopefully not soon) so I would love to see younger talent who can help the rotation next year.

I get the theory, but I wonder how available is a player who is (a) still young, (b) already good enough to crack the rotation and be a valued contributor, and (c ) readily available to the Mavs. Those special talents, presumably on first contract (which makes them extra affordable), are hoarded by about every team.

I need someone to name a name or three, who might qualify.

[myconsumerclub]

With a projected starting line up of AD PJ Klay Kyrie and Lively / Gafford I would say we need a PG to cover for Kyries absence and get one that is taller like Luka. AD is part PG getting 4 APG so we do have his passing ability to utilize. Din is not who I want to rely on as a starter. Brandon is the better PG that somewhat plays like Irving.

Would not mind C/PF D. Wolf to also cover for AD when he is hurt if he scores highly on everyones draft board. He looks like he passes the ball well also so very much another AD type to use at PF. Jones is a keeper as well, especially if you can use him at PF / SF. This gives us backups for AD and maybe when we trade Powell and or someone else we can snag a late first pick or 2nd rounder that is useful. Trading down to get 2 picks may be nice to pull off as well.

[SleepingHero]

MAVS DRAFT BOARD

1. Flagg

2. Harper

3. Jakucionis
4. Edgecombe
5. Bayley

6. Johnson
7. Fears

8. Murray-Boyles
9. Knueppel

If none above are available, try to trade down while dumping Hardy+Powell (getting below the 2nd tax).

10. Maluach
11. Fleming
12. Clifford
13. Newell

If none above are available, I'd rather trade our pick for someone ready to contribute now.

14. Saraf
15. Traore
16. McNeeley
17. Richardson
18. Riley
19. Beringuer
20. Sorber
21. Lendenborg
22. De Larrea

Honestly what I’ve seen of Jakucionis, I haven’t been really impressed. High turnovers to assist ratio and his offensive game is lacking.

I may be wrong but just haven’t been excited.

Malauach jumped off the page for me. I think it’d be hilarious to draft another center to this team but if he’s around where the Mavs are I say we take him no matter what and figure out the rest later.

It’d also help when/if we trade Gafford.

[Knutsen]

So if everything goes right from a draft perspective we could still end up with the 12th best lottery odds if I‘m right. What would have to happen?

We lose the first play-in game against the Kings and the Kings win their second play-in and qualify for the playoffs. And in the east Orlando ends up with a better record than we do, but loses both of their play-in games against teams with a worse record than us, so that two of the Bulls/Hawks/Heat also pass us.

[myconsumerclub]

Would you trade down for the 2 or 3 firsts that BRK has? Say they wanted 14th bad and we could take back 17th plus get 26th and possibly 27th. I am thinking it depends on who is falling to us that we may want or if that situation fails to materialize then we may be in a situation where the talent is about the same at 14 through 27 and its better to trade down.

[F Gump]

Would you trade down for the 2 or 3 firsts that BRK has? Say they wanted 14th bad and we could take back 17th plus get 26th and possibly 27th. I am thinking it depends on who is falling to us that we may want or if that situation fails to materialize then we may be in a situation where the talent is about the same at 14 through 27 and its better to trade down.

I doubt they'd consider that. 

They have an issue with roster slots, and may even need some extra, so a trade that adds extra bodies takes them in the wrong direction.

It all depends on how highly they value BW and KJ, and also resigning Exum and/or Dinwiddie. But if they want all those guys here next season, a 2-for-1 trade (such as Powell-Hardy for Ball) is necessary just to have room for 1 pick. No place for more.

[DL2RimRocker]

Honestly, I can't see Mavs taking anyone considering their situation.
They'll be forced to trade the pick for a washed-up vet just to somewhat compete next season.

I'm afraid Nico's short sidedness has destroyed both long and short terms.
Does a young player even matter on this team at this point?

Our building blocks for the future are Lively and Christie with a mid-range draft pick this season and virtually no future picks.
Nico will piece this thing together next season just enough to barely make the POs so the 2026 pick will basically be the same as this year giving us virtually no chance at landing a star in the draft.

At best, Lively, Christie and the few mid and most likely late round picks will be roll players and the only hope of acquiring a star will be through FA.
What FA would want to be a part of this freakin mess of an organization?

[Chicagojk]

Walter Clayton a late lottery/mid first? Gives me some Quentin Grimes vibes.

Those two big Florida white kids a little maxi Kleber versatility. Both are sophomores so will probably be back but both are big, mobile and skilled.

Not a good final game for Malauch. 0 rebounds against a physical, aggressive Houston team.

[Chicagojk]

I don't overate a hot tourament run especially when it is an older player. Clayton Jr is making some money though. He will be 23 next year, so he is an old rookie. Sam Vecenie had him in the 40's around a month ago. He is 6'2 or 6'3. That difference may mean a lot. Sam Vecenie compares him to Payton Pritchard as a scoring guard, and not a true point. I could see a team taking him in the first as a role ready player now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjL6U20xHRw&t=368s

[FireNicoHarrison]

Duke out. That's fantastic.

Well done Houston.