Trade & FA 2024-25:

[mvossman]

How the hell can we get in on these sweepstakes. 

AD+KD is worth Luka, even at their ages.

It would have helped if Nico was not so bad at negotiating and we had another first and Knecht.

[MarkAguirreWrathofGod]

It would have helped if Nico was not so bad at negotiating and we had another first and Knecht.

We even threw in a second!

[Scott41theMavs]

[Fischer] The Suns are listening to offers on Kevin Durant and Durant is aware of this. Golden State has been the most active in the pursuit of Durant with Phoenix holding interest in Kuminga. Golden State’s ideal plan? Bringing both LeBron and Durant to the Bay Area to play alongside Curry.

Why would the Suns trade Durant when they're the ultimate win-now team? They're even worse than the Mavs in terms of pick ownership for the next few years.

[mvossman]

We even threw in a second!

Yep, just like the KP trade.  Nico has to be the worst trade negotiator in the NBA.  And we are likely about to see him make more trades because this team doesn't make any sense right now.

[SleepingHero]

I would empty the treasure chest for KD and just go all in because that's all this team can do at the moment. There is no future. What can we offer for KD that will entice them? Do we have three numbers 1 to trade now?

We have our own 2025 FRP, our 2026 FRP, a 2029 Lakers pick unprotected, our 2028 FRP (swapped with OKC), and our 2030 FRP (swapped with Spurs).

Mavs could technically word their trades that could include the swapped 2028 and 2030 picks. 

So potentially 3 FRP. 2026, 2028, 2030, or the 2029 pick. edit Forgot the 2029 pick cannot go out if we send the 2028 or 2030 picks .

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

We have our own 2025 FRP, our 2026 FRP, a 2029 Lakers pick unprotected, our 2028 FRP (swapped with OKC), and our 2030 FRP (swapped with Spurs).

Mavs could technically word their trades that could include the swapped 2028 and 2030 picks. 

So potentially 4 FRP. 2026, 2028, 2030, and the 2029 pick.

Thanks for this.

I am trying to THINK BIGGER than guys like Coby White, Colin Sexton, or Bogdan from ATL.  We have a lot of ammo but salary matching seems like the bigger problem.  Is there a borderline All-Star level wing/guard we can get?

[KillerLeft]

Yeah.  I think he worded it strangely but meant that AD is no Mobley from a mobility standpoint.

Worded it strangely?

[BigDirk41]

We have our own 2025 FRP, our 2026 FRP, a 2029 Lakers pick unprotected, our 2028 FRP (swapped with OKC), and our 2030 FRP (swapped with Spurs).

Mavs could technically word their trades that could include the swapped 2028 and 2030 picks. 

So potentially 3  FRP. 2026, 2028, 2030, or the 2029 pick. edit Forgot the 2029 pick cannot go out if we send the 2028 or 2030 picks .

Can we get to KD's salary? I'm guessing not?

[SleepingHero]

Thanks for this.

I am trying to THINK BIGGER than guys like Coby White.  We have a lot of ammo but salary matching seems like the bigger problem.  Is there a borderline All-Star level wing we can get?

Honestly right now? No. We just don’t have the contracts. If Grimes was on a bigger deal, or if Hardy was on a bigger deal, then yes, but their value also would be lower. 

Just to confirm though the most we can send out is 3 picks. Which, in a post Luka world, is a crap ton

[BigDirk41]

Honestly right now? No. We just don’t have the contracts. If Grimes was on a bigger deal, or if Hardy was on a bigger deal, then yes, but their value also would be lower. 

Just to confirm though the most we can send out is 3 picks. Which, in a post Luka world, is a crap ton

So it sounds like we are out on any big money players?

[SleepingHero]

Can we get to KD's salary? I'm guessing not?

It would take Gafford, Naji, Klay, and PJ to get to KD’s salary.

[Jym]

Guess it's Colby White or bust

[SleepingHero]

I am honestly fine with going after Lonzo Ball and try Portland to get Avdija

[KillerLeft]

Honestly right now? No. We just don’t have the contracts. If Grimes was on a bigger deal, or if Hardy was on a bigger deal, then yes, but their value also would be lower. 

Just to confirm though the most we can send out is 3 picks. Which, in a post Luka world, is a crap ton

I just don't see how they do anything meaningful without including Gafford and his contract (which I now don't believe they want to do, but think they SHOULD want to do more than ever). 

You tell me the plan is to start with AD next to Lively, but close with one of them next to PJW? I can get on board with that. I do not even understand trying to think about keeping BOTH of the centers here, WITH Davis...they're going to end up closing games with BOTH Lively AND Gafford on the bench when Davis is healthy. Or, they'll lose those games. And, they traded Luka to put themselves into that situation. 

But...if they were willing to move Gafford, it sure feels like he'd be a Laker right now and Knecht or Reeves and another pick would be here in Dallas, because nobody will shut up now about how badly this leaves the Lakers needing a center.

Maybe I'm wrong and they are shopping Gafford (or Lively) right now. It would help me wrap my head around all this, if so, but I really think they are going full Minnesotard.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

Gafford, PJ, Klay, and picks for Devin Booker.

Kyrie
Booker
Christie
AD
Lively

OK I need a break from the internet.

[KillerLeft]

Gafford, PJ, Klay, and picks for Devin Booker.

Kyrie
Booker
Christie
AD
Lively

OK I need a break from the internet.

Sold, but no way in Hell that happens. As dumb as PHX is, they're smarter than that (unlike Dallas). 

But, for the record, they pull something like that off and I'm right back on board.

[SleepingHero]

Gafford, PJ, Klay, and picks for Devin Booker.

Kyrie
Booker
Christie
AD
Lively

OK I need a break from the internet.

If the Suns are content with blowing it the F up I am totally down for this.

I think if they traded KD, Booker probably wants out too.

[Smitty]

Gafford, PJ, Klay, and picks for Devin Booker.

Kyrie
Booker
Christie
AD
Lively

OK I need a break from the internet.

That's actually a good haul for the Suns. 

I'd make this trade also, not that my opinion matters.

[KillerLeft]

Just so I can decide if I need to live in abject terror until the deadline...there's no realistic way for the Mavs to offer a landing spot for Brad Beal in a way that would enable PHX to unclog themselves for productive business in a multi-team deal, right?

RIGHT?

[KillerLeft]

I think we're all in what's called "the bargaining stage." Which of the seven is that? Is the end of the grieving process in sight?