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02-02-2025, 06:16 PM
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Exact same things going through my mind. Need another playmaker. Is PJ Washington a small forward or trade bait? Would they consider trading Lively? Nico said AD will start at 4 but could finish games at 5. Was he just talking temporarily while Lively is hurt?
02-02-2025, 06:16 PM
What salary can we get to without trading AD, Kyrie, or PJ? I fully expect everyone else to be available by Nico and I will not be surprised at all if he uses Lively to land another high level player, as sickening as that sounds. It will be minor compared to losing Luka.
02-02-2025, 06:17 PM
02-02-2025, 06:18 PM
(02-02-2025, 06:16 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: ^ I would be shocked if they trade Lively. Although who knows know. If he is talking about defense AD, Lively and PJ need to be your guys. Gafford is great protecting the rim, but the other parts of his defense has some holes. The issue is PJ, AD and LIvely are a weird mix. Especially in todays game.
02-02-2025, 06:20 PM
(02-02-2025, 06:18 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I would be shocked if they trade Lively. Although who knows know. If he is talking about defense AD, Lively and PJ need to be your guys. Gafford is great protecting the rim, but the other parts of his defense has some holes. The issue is PJ, AD and LIvely are a weird mix. Especially in todays game. Nico only cares about the next 3-4 years so nothing will surprise me at this point.
02-02-2025, 06:21 PM
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02-02-2025, 06:22 PM
Might need to update the title. The Kelly signing was huge though
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02-02-2025, 06:27 PM
(02-02-2025, 06:22 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: Might need to update the title. The Kelly signing was huge though I don’t want it to be real man
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02-02-2025, 07:47 PM
Mavs finally found a taker for Maxi. Not just a hypothetical. They ended up having to add a couple of other players to get rid of him.
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02-03-2025, 09:57 AM
(02-02-2025, 06:08 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: How did they plan on winning with 2 non shooters at the 4&5 on the court together? You can win a little, but it’s really not possible to win big with two non shooters. Davis will either have to play the 5, wasting DLive and Gafford, or the Mavs will need to trade for a stretch 5.
02-03-2025, 12:30 PM
(02-02-2025, 06:16 PM)BigDirk41 Wrote: What salary can we get to without trading AD, Kyrie, or PJ? I fully expect everyone else to be available by Nico and ... If you go to extremes, and keep only the top end of the roster (Kyrie, AD, PJW, Gaff, Lively, Klay, Christie) and everyone else is sent out the door, you have 7 players and about 141.15M in payroll, with a hard cap limit of 176.63M. That's about 35.5M, but you have to add 7 players, not just 1. It takes a lot of bodies outgoing, which makes the trade hard on the other team's roster, so you have to work through that issue too. IOW not very practical - but if they work it hard enough, they may have some angles to put together a package to work with. For example, what would a package of Naji-Grimes-Hardy get you? The salary outgoing is about 15M, which means they could probably take back a 20M player and leave room under the hard cap to add 2 other bodies. If they are committed to staying under the tax line, the limits are much smaller. They are under right now, but not sure that's their limit if they can find the right player to add. I suspect they are looking hard for one more player, preferably a 2-way player that is good on defense AND can create some offense.
02-03-2025, 12:56 PM
(02-03-2025, 12:30 PM)F Gump Wrote: I suspect they are looking hard for one more player, preferably a 2-way player that is good on defense AND can create some offense. Totally, and I bet we should focus on Grimes as the main outgoing piece, so it would have to be a pretty inexpensive example of that type of player. I don't think they're trading Marshall, and it sure doesn't seem like they're trading Gafford or PJW, having mentioned them both in the press conference. I think they're so focused on this year (for whatever reason) that I'd be less shocked to see Lively go this week than Gafford, honestly. Which is INSANE to me, but wouldn't be as shocking as trading Luka Doncic.
02-03-2025, 12:57 PM
What does Grimes/Powell get you?
I think that's the deal they're looking for, personally.
02-03-2025, 01:05 PM
(02-03-2025, 12:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: What does Grimes/Powell get you? 140 Coby White CHI 141 Wendell Carter Jr. ORL 142 Ivica Zubac LAC 143 P.J. Tucker LAC 144 Donte DiVincenzo MIN 145 Brandon Miller CHO 146 Terance Mann LAC 147 Alex Sarr WAS 148 Evan Mobley CLE 149 Larry Nance Jr. ATL 150 Matisse Thybulle POR 151 Aaron Nesmith IND 152 Gabe Vincent LAL 153 Maxi Kleber DAL 154 Moritz Wagner ORL 155 Chet Holmgren OKC 156 Chris Boucher TOR 157 Jarred Vanderbilt LAL 158 Aaron Wiggins OKC 159 Chris Paul SAS 160 Scoot Henderson POR 161 Isaac Okoro CLE 162 Scottie Barnes TOR 163 Reed Sheppard HOU 164 Mike Conley MIN 165 Jonas Valančiūnas WAS 166 Alex Caruso OKC 167 Jabari Smith Jr. HOU 168 Derrick Jones Jr. LAC 169 Al Horford BOS 170 Pat Connaughton MIL 171 Royce O'Neale PHO 172 T.J. McConnell IND 173 Luke Kennard MEM 174 Amen Thompson HOU 175 Jalen Suggs ORL 176 Gary Payton II GSW 177 Stephon Castle SAS 178 Tre Jones SAS 179 Goga Bitadze ORL 180 Zeke Nnaji DEN 181 Keegan Murray SAC 182 Buddy Hield GSW 183 Kyle Anderson GSW 184 Naji Marshall DAL 185 Jalen Smith CHI 186 Georges Niang CLE 187 Ausar Thompson DET 188 Josh Giddey CHI 189 Josh Okogie CHO 190 Ron Holland DET 191 Caleb Martin PHI 192 Cody Martin CHO 193 Jock Landale HOU 194 Trey Lyles SAC 195 Jeff Green HOU 196 Kevon Looney GSW 197 Kelly Oubre Jr. PHI 198 Jaden Ivey DET 199 KJ Martin PHI 200 Vasilije Micić CHO 201 Simone Fontecchio DET 202 Jonathan Kuminga GSW 203 Anthony Black ORL 204 Jae'Sean Tate HOU 205 Gary Harris ORL 206 Tidjane Salaün CHO 207 Bennedict Mathurin IND 208 Max Christie LAL 209 Franz Wagner ORL 210 Ayo Dosunmu CHI 211 Bilal Coulibaly WAS 212 Donovan Clingan POR 213 Payton Pritchard BOS 214 Kenrich Williams OKC 215 Shaedon Sharpe POR 216 Jevon Carter CHI 217 Davion Mitchell TOR 218 Saddiq Bey WAS 219 Jarace Walker IND 220 Rob Dillingham MIN 221 Dean Wade CLE 222 John Konchar MEM 223 Ziaire Williams BRK 224 Dyson Daniels ATL 225 Precious Achiuwa NYK 226 Malik Beasley DET 227 Chris Duarte CHI 228 Taylor Hendricks UTA 229 Moses Moody GSW 230 Zach Edey MEM 231 Corey Kispert WAS 232 Jeremy Sochan SAS 233 Cason Wallace OKC 234 Cody Williams UTA 235 Alperen Şengün HOU 236 Johnny Davis WAS 237 Jett Howard ORL 238 Dāvis Bertāns CHO 239 Haywood Highsmith MIA 240 Matas Buzelis CHI 241 Kris Dunn LAC 242 Dario Šarić DEN 243 Trey Murphy III NOP 244 Ousmane Dieng OKC 245 Dereck Lively II DAL 246 Drew Eubanks UTA 247 Nick Richards PHO 248 Andre Drummond PHI 249 Nikola Topić OKC 250 Tre Mann CHO 251 Jalen Williams OKC 252 Gradey Dick TOR 253 Jalen McDaniels SAS 254 Miles McBride NYK 255 Devin Carter SAC 256 Nicolas Batum LAC 257 Aaron Holiday HOU 258 Jalen Duren DET 259 Jordan Hawkins NOP 260 Jalen Johnson ATL
02-03-2025, 03:00 PM
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(02-03-2025, 12:57 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: What does Grimes/Powell get you? You can get up to about a $12-$13 million returning player for this depending on what you do to fill the roster spot you just created (assuming Fanspo is up to date). Cole Anthony and Coby White both fit into this salary range.
02-03-2025, 03:04 PM
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^ Coby White is the name I was going to mention also.
The Mavs HAVE TO get another playmaker if they are serious about winning now like Nico said.
02-03-2025, 03:04 PM
(02-03-2025, 03:00 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: You can get up to about a $12-$13 million returning player for this depending on what you do to fill the roster spot you just created. Greg Anthony and Coby White both fit into this salary range. Coby White does a lot for me, but I definitely wouldn't call him a two-way player, so I'm not sure he fits the exact criteria FGump laid out earlier. I'd certainly prefer him to Sexton, however. Maybe we should think in terms of adding Hardy, or Hardy instead of Powell? Alternatively, I wonder if they're about to throw gas on Hardy and just pray he's ready for a bigger role, rather than even target the type of player we all think they need? I feel lost at sea here. I don't even feel like I have the pulse of what they're trying to do.
02-03-2025, 04:09 PM
According to Tim MacMahon of ESPN. The Dallas Mavericks gave Luka Doncic an 11-day excused absence in late November to ‘shed weight after he had ballooned into the high 260s,’
All the dirty laundry is being aired now to quell the fans. I don’t think Nico nor the owners expected this backlash. And for that they are truly stupid.
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02-03-2025, 04:11 PM
(02-03-2025, 04:09 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: According to Tim MacMahon of ESPN. The Dallas Mavericks gave Luka Doncic an 11-day excused absence in late November to ‘shed weight after he had ballooned into the high 260s,’ I don't care if he was 300 lbs. The trade return was shit. ![]() • ballsrchr, From Dirk to SCREW YOU Nico, rocky164, SleepingHero |
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